We as a community can simply say we shall not stand for this.

We are the ones, as customers, with power..... we can let them know.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Fred Beecher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 6/6/08, Alexander Baxevanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > and an earlier patent that they also own:
> >
> > http://www.google.com/patents?id=hrmAAAAAEBAJ&dq=7,174,286
> >
> > I think those patents were filed around 2004, and I really wonder if
> > such tools never existed in some form before that time. Maybe some of
> > the people in the list who've been in the industry for long enough can
> > provide some insight.
>
>
> It looks like the first one is an extension of the second, which was
> *filed*
> around 2004 and granted in 2007.
>
> If "prior art" can be found (proving that such things existed before
> > the patent was applied for) then the patent can be declared invalid.
> > The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has taken up quite a few such
> > cases - see http://www.eff.org/issues/patents
>
>
> Well Axure itself existed before either patent was applied for. It was
> first
> released in 2003.
>
> Does "prior art" also cover offline practices? We've been doing annotated
> wireframes forever, and what both Axure and iRise have done is to take that
> offline practice and extend it into prototyping. They've just taken very
> different approaches to doing so.
>
> Maybe this is an issue where the IxDA community can liaise with EFF
> > and raise another case like that.
>
>
> That would be fabulous. Does anyone here have contacts in the EFF?
>
> - Fred
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