Dear Simon,

>On 29 Jun 2008, at 18:23, Esther wrote:
>
>>  "Allow a different
>> input source for each document"

>I feel such a fool but I cannot find input option source under the  
>input tab nor can I locate the the  "Allow a different
>input source for each document" check box. I run my Mac under leopard.  
>Would it be any different from your set up?

I am, indeed, still using Tiger and it took me some searching
of the internet to find out that Leopard does have the
checkbox option to: "Allow a different input source for each document."  
 
In Tiger, this combination shows up on the Input Menu pane just
after the table where you select the keyboard layouts, following
the list of Input menu shortcuts that describe the currently 
set shortcuts for "Select previous input source" and "Select
next input source in menu" and the "Keyboard shortcuts" button.

I next have an entry for "Input source options" with two radio 
buttons -- the first is "Use one input source in all documents"
and the second is "Allow a different input source for each 
document".  The final item is the checkbox for "Show input
menu in menu bar".

According to a web page complaint at the Multilingual Mac
this input menu option is missing in OS X 10.5 Leopard -- and
they're quite bitter about it!

This is the web page for the article:

http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/2007/11/os-x-105-leopard-fix-for-missing-input.html

and they give a fix that is described in the excerpt below:

<begin excerpt>

Wednesday, November 14, 2007

OS X 10.5 Leopard: Fix for Missing Input Menu Setting

For some reason, Leopard no longer has the setting previously found in OS X in 
System Preferences/International/Input Menu for "Allow a different input source 
for each document." This is badly missed by many who need to have different 
keyboards active in different apps and don't want to constantly have to switch 
the layout. A possible fix is the app InputSwitcher. Instructions are in the 
ReadMe contained in the download.

<end excerpt>

The link they give to InputSwitcher is:

http://limechat.net/inputswitcher/

When I read that page, they say that you first have to install a
package named SIMBL (pronounced like "symbol" or "cymbal").

I haven't tried this since I don't have a Leopard system at hand.
I do see that the download file format for SIMBL is a .tbz 
extension which stands for "bzip2 compressed tar".  I'm not sure
whether the default application on the Mac handles this format, but 
if you need it, a very good general purpose unpacking tool is 
The Un-archiver.  (It will also handle Stuffit files.)

Here is the description for The Unarchiver :

<begin excerpt>
The Unarchiver is a much more capable replacement for "BOMArchiveHelper.app", 
the built-in archive unpacker program in Mac OS X.

The Unarchiver is designed to handle many more formats than BOMArchiveHelper, 
and to better fit in with the design of the Finder. It can also handle 
filenames in foreign character sets, created with non-English versions of other 
operating systems. Supported file formats include Zip, Tar-GZip, Tar-BZip2, 
Rar, 7-zip, LhA, StuffIt and many other more or less obscure formats.

<end excerpt>

and The Unarchiver may be downloaded from Macupdate:

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22774/the-unarchiver

I'm sorry that this all seems so complicated! I can use the 
shortcut keys to switch between language keyboard setups 
whether or not the "Allow a different input source for each 
document."  is set -- but it's a lot easier to make sure that
I have returned to a U.S.-English keyboard if I can check that
option.  I would be quite hesitant to explore non-Latin keyboards
(like Greek or Russian -- where, incidentally, VoiceOver says 
nothing!) without it.  I think you could try Welsh.  As long as
you have a keyboard with an "M" key so that you can use 
VO-keys+M to navigate to the menu bars, and use the arrow keys
you should be able to change the language input.

Alternatively, you can try to download the 3 files (InputSwitcher,
SIMBL, and possibly The Unarchiver) and try to regain the 
flexibility to switch language keyboards mid-application. 

HTH

Best,

Esther

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