Dear Simon, >On 29 Jun 2008, at 18:23, Esther wrote: > >> "Allow a different >> input source for each document"
>I feel such a fool but I cannot find input option source under the >input tab nor can I locate the the "Allow a different >input source for each document" check box. I run my Mac under leopard. >Would it be any different from your set up? I am, indeed, still using Tiger and it took me some searching of the internet to find out that Leopard does have the checkbox option to: "Allow a different input source for each document." In Tiger, this combination shows up on the Input Menu pane just after the table where you select the keyboard layouts, following the list of Input menu shortcuts that describe the currently set shortcuts for "Select previous input source" and "Select next input source in menu" and the "Keyboard shortcuts" button. I next have an entry for "Input source options" with two radio buttons -- the first is "Use one input source in all documents" and the second is "Allow a different input source for each document". The final item is the checkbox for "Show input menu in menu bar". According to a web page complaint at the Multilingual Mac this input menu option is missing in OS X 10.5 Leopard -- and they're quite bitter about it! This is the web page for the article: http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/2007/11/os-x-105-leopard-fix-for-missing-input.html and they give a fix that is described in the excerpt below: <begin excerpt> Wednesday, November 14, 2007 OS X 10.5 Leopard: Fix for Missing Input Menu Setting For some reason, Leopard no longer has the setting previously found in OS X in System Preferences/International/Input Menu for "Allow a different input source for each document." This is badly missed by many who need to have different keyboards active in different apps and don't want to constantly have to switch the layout. A possible fix is the app InputSwitcher. Instructions are in the ReadMe contained in the download. <end excerpt> The link they give to InputSwitcher is: http://limechat.net/inputswitcher/ When I read that page, they say that you first have to install a package named SIMBL (pronounced like "symbol" or "cymbal"). I haven't tried this since I don't have a Leopard system at hand. I do see that the download file format for SIMBL is a .tbz extension which stands for "bzip2 compressed tar". I'm not sure whether the default application on the Mac handles this format, but if you need it, a very good general purpose unpacking tool is The Un-archiver. (It will also handle Stuffit files.) Here is the description for The Unarchiver : <begin excerpt> The Unarchiver is a much more capable replacement for "BOMArchiveHelper.app", the built-in archive unpacker program in Mac OS X. The Unarchiver is designed to handle many more formats than BOMArchiveHelper, and to better fit in with the design of the Finder. It can also handle filenames in foreign character sets, created with non-English versions of other operating systems. Supported file formats include Zip, Tar-GZip, Tar-BZip2, Rar, 7-zip, LhA, StuffIt and many other more or less obscure formats. <end excerpt> and The Unarchiver may be downloaded from Macupdate: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22774/the-unarchiver I'm sorry that this all seems so complicated! I can use the shortcut keys to switch between language keyboard setups whether or not the "Allow a different input source for each document." is set -- but it's a lot easier to make sure that I have returned to a U.S.-English keyboard if I can check that option. I would be quite hesitant to explore non-Latin keyboards (like Greek or Russian -- where, incidentally, VoiceOver says nothing!) without it. I think you could try Welsh. As long as you have a keyboard with an "M" key so that you can use VO-keys+M to navigate to the menu bars, and use the arrow keys you should be able to change the language input. Alternatively, you can try to download the 3 files (InputSwitcher, SIMBL, and possibly The Unarchiver) and try to regain the flexibility to switch language keyboards mid-application. HTH Best, Esther