As one of many working to shed light on the human side of software engineering in academia, I thought I'd raise a few points.

It is true that many academics prefer the mathematical approach. But I've also spoken to several dozen over the years with other perspectives. For example, much of the funding outside the US is biased towards certain SE problems and approaches. I don't know why this bias persists, but it affects the work that gets done. Many faculty, when thinking of their tenure case, are hindered by the expectations of their CS faculty peers, choosing problems and methods that seem legitimate from outsiders' perspective. Another interesting factor is the skillset of many academic researchers. Many realize that to explore human factors in SE requires skills that they never learned. Worse yet, disciplinary boundaries in universities prevent collaborations that would fill this gap.

I think the actual number of researchers who want to explore and account for human factors in their research is far greater than the number that actually do (and succeed). The rest face a number of long standing barriers outside their direct control. Some of us have to take the risk of breaching these barriers before others will feel safe to do the same.

Andy

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On Oct 12, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Derek M Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hanania,

In the paper that I mentioned in a previous posting, Wieringa claimed that much of the Software Engineering (SE) research does not apply scientific methods. Not only that I agreed with him, but I claimed that the situation is even worth than that; in many of the SE papers the underlying research questions are not scientific. I presented this position in the 2007 European
conference on Computing and Philosophy.

I agree with what you say about the problem (I would throw out
a large chunk of the mathematical approach to the solution proposed
in your paper).

There is a serious problem with the academic software engineering
culture. Many of the people involved in don't feel they have to change
and there is no real pressure to change.

So academic SE is stuck in the deep hole of being staffed by people
interested in the mathematical approach and uninterested in experiments,
with industry sucking out all of the practical oriented people, and
a reward system that favours the status quo.

The core science that universities teach to would be software engineers is computer science. The anecdotes presented in earlier postings of this thread indicated the existence of a problem for which computer science does not seem to be the source of cure. The community of PPIG may be interested in
the proposition that we, software engineers, must be well educated in
computer science, but the field of science to which the above mentioned
problems belong is not mathematics, but psychology (which includes
sociology, etc.). The extended abstract to the conference is available on
request.
So, Nick, the answer that I humbly offer to your question is two fold. One, Wieringa provides a rather detailed answer, which I couldn't write better.
Two, what makes science what it is, is not only the methods but the
questions asked. --
Hanania
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Nick Flor
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 13:46
To: Hanania Salzer; discuss@ppig.org
Subject: RE: PPIG discuss: When agile goes bad....
Hanania, what scientific methods would you propose to evaluate competing
software development perspectives?
BTW, I think Fleck's "Genesis and Development of a Scientific Fact" is far
more relevant to the discussion of method adoption than Kuhn's.
 - Nick
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Nick V. Flor, PhD
Associate Professor, Information Systems
Anderson School of Management
University of New Mexico
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