On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Eric DeCoff <ericdec...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Laurence found this in our mail-list archives :)
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> This is only a solution if you only use HTTPS completely on the site
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> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Knudsen <douglasknud...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> yikes! sounds like time to reset to zero.  May the bots be with you!
>>
>>
>> Douglas Knudsen
>> http://www.cubicleman.com
>> this is my signature, like it?
>>
>>
>>   On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Laurence MacNeill <
>> laurence5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't even get the damn CF9 9.0.1 update to install...  I shut down all
>>> the services, including the Web Publishing Service of course, and the update
>>> says that CF9 is still running...  I even disabled all those services
>>> completely and rebooted, then tried the update again -- same problem.  How
>>> the hell can CF9 be running when it's been completely disabled?!  This
>>> stupid server is apparently all f****d up.
>>>
>>> So we're switching back to the old server...  Yuck.
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Laurence MacNeill <
>>> laurence5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "where is it mapped to."  The CFIDE is
>>>> located in the E:\Inetpub\prereg\web directory, which is our web-root
>>>> directory.  Loading the CFAdministrator program and looking under Mappings,
>>>> it does show that folder next to the CFIDE entry.
>>>>
>>>> And, yes, <use-mappings> is set to true everywhere in the
>>>> remoting-config.xml file.
>>>>
>>>> L.
>>>>
>>>>   On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eric DeCoff <ericdec...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Laurence,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok where is your cold fussion mapped too?
>>>>>
>>>>> do you have
>>>>>
>>>>> <use-mappings>true</use-mappings>
>>>>>
>>>>> in your remoting-config.xml
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Laurence MacNeill <
>>>>> laurence5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The ColdFusion .NET service wouldn't have anything to do with this,
>>>>>> would it?  That service is running on the working test-server, but it's 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> running on the new live-server...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only other difference I can see between the two systems is that
>>>>>> the new live-server has version 9.0.0.251028 installed, whereas the
>>>>>> test-server has 9.0.1.274733 installed...  Could *that* be the issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> L.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM, ow...@u-saw-it.com <
>>>>>> ow...@u-saw-it.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you tried starting CF from the command line - might help as CF
>>>>>>> shows everything going on from that vantage point?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFFUG Discuss] https CF9 flash-remoting broken on new
>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>> > server...
>>>>>>> > From: Laurence MacNeill **
>>>>>>> > Date: Tue, June 28, 2011 10:45 pm
>>>>>>> > To: discussion@affug.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Emphasis on "should be"  LOL  Yeah, that's why this is so confusing
>>>>>>> -- all the .cfm-based web-pages are working just fine...  It's only the 
>>>>>>> Flex
>>>>>>> stuff that's failing...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I really wish I knew more about IIS 7...  I keep coming back to
>>>>>>> that -- it's gotta be in there somewhere...  I've checked everything 
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is to check in ColdFusion 9, and while I'm certainly no CF expert, I've 
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> enough CF installs to know what to check -- it really just doesn't 
>>>>>>> appear to
>>>>>>> be a CF problem to me...  No errors in the logs, no exceptions, no 
>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>> -- it all appears to be a completely normal CF install...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > That link you sent -- I went thru that when I upgraded from CF8 to
>>>>>>> CF9, back about 6 or 8 months ago...  I did check all that out again,
>>>>>>> though, just to make sure...  Seems like all my .xml files are 
>>>>>>> correct...
>>>>>>> That's why this is just so darn frustrating...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanks for the suggestions,
>>>>>>> > L.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
>>>>>>> > well, as long as CFM pages are loading, IIS should be handing
>>>>>>> things off and returning them properly.  This should not interfere with 
>>>>>>> CF
>>>>>>> and the Flex services, never did for IIS 6, the last time I got near 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> mess :)   Errors about the Flex services not starting should be in the
>>>>>>> CFAdmin logs section if there is a issue, I'd expect, though could be 
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> JEE logs instead.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > CF9 changed the config in this area a bit too
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WS5B9C73A8-5FA2-4a54-B0C6-CECA2E20052D.html
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Douglas Knudsen
>>>>>>> > http://www.cubicleman.com
>>>>>>> > this is my signature, like it?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Laurence MacNeill wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > So, the built-in Flex services are not starting up or are
>>>>>>> misconfigured, then...  Gotta be that, because I've *never*  hard-coded
>>>>>>> anything in my services-config and remoting-config files...  Ever...  
>>>>>>> (Just
>>>>>>> for kicks, I'm checking them again -- but I gurarantee you there's no
>>>>>>> hard-coded links in there).   It's all {server.name} and
>>>>>>> {server.port}, etc, etc...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > My major question, now, is this -- how do I get the built-in Flex
>>>>>>> services to start up?  If those services aren't starting, why is there 
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> error message in any of the logs?  Might it be an IIS 7 permissions 
>>>>>>> issue of
>>>>>>> some sort?  If so, to whom do I give permissions, and to what?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>> > L.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > if  http://localhost/flex2gateway fails to load a blank page, then
>>>>>>> the built in Flex services have not started up or are misconfigured.  Be
>>>>>>> sure your xml config files you copied have no hardcoded IPs or such.  In
>>>>>>> fact, there is no need to have domains or IPs in there, they make use 
>>>>>>> of JEE
>>>>>>> properties.  I would put the original services-config and 
>>>>>>> remoting-config
>>>>>>> back in, restart, and test.  If  http://localhost/flex2gateway then
>>>>>>> loads a blank page, start from there.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I'll also note, the crossdomain file will have naught to do with
>>>>>>> all this unless you are hosting a Flash app on ANOTHER server and 
>>>>>>> pointing
>>>>>>> it to your CF server.  Test this all out after localhost is working, go 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the power of Ockham :)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Douglas Knudsen
>>>>>>> > http://www.cubicleman.com
>>>>>>> > this is my signature, like it?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Eric DeCoff wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > When all else fails..
>>>>>>> > Go to the fiddler
>>>>>>> > http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Jun 28, 2011 9:06 AM, "Laurence MacNeill" wrote:> It appears to
>>>>>>> be working -- we can serve regular https:// pages with no
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > problems...
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Any ideas why I'm still getting a "500" error when I browse to
>>>>>>> > > http://localhost/flex2gateway ? I've tried every suggestion I
>>>>>>> could find on
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > Google when I searched... Nothing has made a diffference...
>>>>>>> (Well, I can't
>>>>>>> > > try re-installing CF9, like some of the suggestions say to do,
>>>>>>> because I
>>>>>>> > > don't have physical access to the machine... But one would think
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > web-hosting guys would have a drive-image they'd use to create
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> > > web-servers, rather than having to go thru all the installation
>>>>>>> rigamarole
>>>>>>> > > every time they make a new server... So installation shouldn't be
>>>>>>> an issue,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > one would think...)
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Anyway... I'm still open to any suggestions... Thanks,
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > L.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Eric DeCoff wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >> Laurence,
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Have you checked to see
>>>>>>> > >> If your service on port 443 working
>>>>>>> > >> On Jun 28, 2011 1:47 AM, "Laurence MacNeill"
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>  > >> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >> > Progress? Maybe?
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> > I browse to http://localhost/flex2gateway on the new server,
>>>>>>> and I get
>>>>>>> > >> the
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> > following:
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> > 500
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> > java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:285)
>>>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:543)
>>>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:203)
>>>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:320)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:428)
>>>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:266)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> > at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> > That certainly seems to me like the problem, eh? If the
>>>>>>> flex2gateway
>>>>>>> > >> itself
>>>>>>> > >> > isn't working, then no matter what I do with the
>>>>>>> services-config.xml
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> file,
>>>>>>> > >> > it's not gonna work.
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> > So -- the question now is, How do I fix the flex2gateway?
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> > L.
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Laurence MacNeill
>>>>>>>  > >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>> > >> >> Ok -- found the log files on Win 2008 / IIS 7...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> > >> >> Here's the offending line:
>>>>>>> > >> >> 2011-06-28 04:20:58 ##.##.##.## POST
>>>>>>> /flex2gateway/cfamfsecure - 443 -
>>>>>>> > >> >> ##.##.##.##
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> Mozilla/5.0+(compatible;+MSIE+9.0;+Windows+NT+6.1;+WOW64;+Trident/5.0)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> 500 0
>>>>>>> > >> >> 0 405
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> > >> >> (I've replaced the IP addresses with the '#'s in that line).
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> > >> >> So -- the 500 error is at the end of the line there, but what
>>>>>>> does the
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> "0 0
>>>>>>> > >> >> 405" mean after the 500? Can that help me diagnose this
>>>>>>> problem somehow?
>>>>>>> > >> >> And why is there a problem anyway? Shouldn't it be doing
>>>>>>> exactly that?
>>>>>>> > >> >> Posting data to the /flex2gateway/cfamfsecure channel? I'm
>>>>>>> really not
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> sure
>>>>>>> > >> >> what's up with that...
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> > >> >> L.
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> > >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Laurence MacNeill <
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >> laurence5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>> > >> >>> If I enable 32-bit apps, it breaks everything... Ran into
>>>>>>> this problem
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>> before trying to run 32-bit ColdFusion 8 on a 64-bit IIS.
>>>>>>> That's why we
>>>>>>> > >> >>> actually upgraded our old server to 64-bit ColdFusion 9 many
>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>> > >> ago...
>>>>>>> > >> >>> As far as errors in the logs are concerned -- any idea where
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> > >> might
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>> be on Windows 2008 with IIS 7 and CF 9? I've never used Win
>>>>>>> 2008 or IIS
>>>>>>> > >> 7
>>>>>>> > >> >>> 'till today... No clue where the logs are...
>>>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>> https certificates: We're using the same cert from the old
>>>>>>> server...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> Cert
>>>>>>> > >> >>> is working fine -- no browser certificate errors at all.
>>>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>> I will try again to clear out my browser cache(s)... Did it
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> > >> earlier
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>> when the problem first surfaced, but maybe it needs to be
>>>>>>> done again...
>>>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> > >> >>> L.
>>>>>>> > >> >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Marty Blood > >wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> A quick Google search turns up this link:
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> http://ppshein.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/internal-500-error-cf9-on-window-2008/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> So it might be that you just need to enable 32-bit apps to
>>>>>>> run in IIS
>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> restart it.
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> Barring that, a 500 status usually means it's the app
>>>>>>> server that's
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> throwing an error. Did you see any errors in the CF9 logs
>>>>>>> or the IIS
>>>>>>> > >> logs?
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> Also, with https did you generate new certificates or are
>>>>>>> you using
>>>>>>> > >> the
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> same ones from the old server? Can you verify they were
>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>> > >> properly
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> in IIS and CF9? (I personally don't know how but you should
>>>>>>> be able to
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> get
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> your network admins to double check that or just make sure
>>>>>>> when you
>>>>>>> > >> connect
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> to a basic web resource served up by IIS you don't see any
>>>>>>> certificate
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> errors).
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> I'm guessing you've run through this but it can't hurt to
>>>>>>> ask if
>>>>>>> > >> you've
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> cleared out your cache (browser, temp files, flash cookies
>>>>>>> if you're
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> using
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> any Flex) in case something on the client side is caching
>>>>>>> references
>>>>>>> > >> to
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> keys, certs, hashes, who-knows-what that were generated by
>>>>>>> the old
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> server?
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> Best of luck!
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> -Marty
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Laurence MacNeill <
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>> laurence5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I'm at my wit's end here...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> We migrated everything over to a new server today... Win
>>>>>>> 2008, IIS 7,
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> CF9... We were running Win 2003, IIS 6 on the old server
>>>>>>> (but still
>>>>>>> > >> had CF9
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> on the old one, so nothing should've changed there).
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I copied the services-config.xml and the
>>>>>>> remoting-config.xml files
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> from
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> the old server to the new one, since both the old one and
>>>>>>> the new one
>>>>>>> > >> have
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> CF9 on them, and both are configured exactly the same way.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I copied our crossdomain.xml file as well. Shouldn't be
>>>>>>> any changes
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> there, since the new server has the exact same domain-name
>>>>>>> as the old
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> server
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> (because our domain-name now points to the new server).
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> So someone please tell me why I'm getting the following
>>>>>>> error:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> "Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.Failed:
>>>>>>> HTTP: Status
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> 500: url: '
>>>>>>> https://www.mydomain.net/flex2gateway/cfamfsecure";
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I've checked everything I know to check... It's always
>>>>>>> been some kind
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> of mis-configuration in the services-config or
>>>>>>> remote-config files
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> before... But not this time, apparently. I'm totally
>>>>>>> stumped. Could
>>>>>>> > >> it
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> somehow be Win 2008 or IIS 7 that are causing the problem?
>>>>>>> Because
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> those
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> are the only things that are different between the new
>>>>>>> server and the
>>>>>>> > >> old
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> one...
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> Please help ASAP.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> L.
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>>>> > >> >>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Eric R. DeCoff
>>>>> Changing the world,
>>>>> 1 line of code at a time
>>>>>
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