Mach-ii just never clicked for me. I tried it for a week before
throwing my hands up and moving to Model-Glue. Within a day the M-G
style of coding was really sinking in, within a week it was like I'd
never done anything differently. From an ease of use perspective I
think M-G makes a heck of a lot more sense and is easier to get up
and running ASAP. Of course, YMMV.
Given MCG's situation, I'd stick with something that she can get up
to speed on quickly which, in my mind, is M-G. Besides, it has two
of the three letters in her initials.
MCG -> M-G ;-)
-dhs
Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
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On Jun 12, 2006, at 9:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I have worked with fusebox and mach-ii. Fusebox was good, but mach-
ii makes
sense to me. I started my development work in C++ and a pure OO
environment. It's a pretty simple rule: Display logic only in the
view,
the controller (listeners) controls flow between the model (base
objects &
dao) and the views. The events in mach-ii are your interface from
the view
to the controller.
Confusing to most, but it makes sense to me. I like mach-ii.
ap
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bent
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Hi MCG,
I don't often like to comment on this sort of thing but...
My comments are only about "easy to learn" aspects of frameworks
within my
experience.
My CF experience: Nearly 6 years now
Fusebox 3 - simple
Fusebox 4 + MVC - Love it
Mach-ii - I still don't get it after a whole year...
The Mach-ii list I found to be very unhelpful, in fact downright
rude...
I'm so tired of reading documentation that was written in
Martian... and
comments in the same aforementioned language.
Whereas the FB 3 & 4 lists were and are a real community effort if not
fragmented
Mach-ii is not easy to learn. We are a team of 6 developers, 2 of
whom grasp
it quite well, one knows what to do with uncertainty, and the other 3
(including me), have to ask all the time.
And I concur with other comments. Architecture decisions are very
important.
I've seen some nasty FB 4 (& 3) code written around less than well
thought
out architecture.
my .02 cents
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:45:00 -0400
Thanks everyone for all the links. And I thought I would be bored
this
weekend, lol. Seems like the consensus is that Model Glue is the
framework
of choice these days. Any votes/biases for anything else? mcg
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From: Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06/09/2006 03:28PM
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks
MCG -
There's a pretty good quickstart guide for MG
http://www.model-glue.org/quickstart/index.html
If you have an hour or so to sit down and go through the guide, you
should have a feel for whether or not it's suitable for your
development team's skill set. It does have a lower learning curve
than Mach-II, and seems to have a very good balance of features.
-Cameron
On 6/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How quickly do you see team members with little OO experience
picking
this
up (MG is OO only, correct?)?
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