JQuery also looks nice... On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Shifang (Frank) Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another option might be to look at what these Javascript libraries > have to offer: > > "Prototype and script.aculo.us" > http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cppsu > > These are not just for UI niceties. They handle a lot of the browser > issues "correctly" and transparently. > > On Feb 18, 2008 11:10 AM, Peyton Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm just about to head to the bookstore looking for an update to the > > O'Reilly book. I've always loved O'Reilly books. But real quick: Does > anyone > > have a recommendation for some other book that would deal with which > > properties - methods - collections are supported by which browser? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven Ross > > Sent: Feb 18, 2008 10:41 AM > > To: discussion@acfug.org > > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Another Question From Rip Van Winkle > > > > never had any issues using getElementById (yes casing was wrong)... > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Peyton Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Steven, did mean Firefox supports *parentNode* instead of > getElementById? > > My Firefox always complains of an error whenever it sees getElementById. > > > > > > Or is there perhaps a different spelling for Firefox? (not likely, > right?) > > The last letter in getElementById is lower case, not upper case as you > have > > it. But of course you meant to type it as lower case, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steven Ross > > > Sent: Feb 18, 2008 10:16 AM > > > To: discussion@acfug.org > > > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Another Question From Rip Van Winkle > > > > > > > > > I have been using YUI (yahoo) library, it works well and has some nice > > built in cross browser functionality. > > > > > > > > > > > > firefox supports getElementByID and the childNodes property... they > > performa a little differently than in IE. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Peyton Todd < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, I believe I already have Firebug: when Firefox tells me I > have an > > error (lower righthand corner) I can click on that and see lots of info > > about it; and which I click on the '^' in that panel, it morphs into a > > window with 'Firebug' in its title. But I don't see how that helps me > with > > navigation in the actual code I'm writing. Or do you mean navigation as > in > > exploring the document while I'm debugging? > > > > > > > > Second, Doug, which of those frameworks would you recommend? In its > > documentation, Adobe refers to Spry from time to time... > > > > > > > > > > > > I still have my question about how to re-write my particular > functions > > (or properties to be precise) Firefox-style. Thanks for the info that > > parentNode = parentElement, but what about the other two? > > > > > > > > Incidentally, to most of you write web pages full of code like 'if > IE to > > this, if NS do that'? I hope there's a way to escape from that! I've had > a > > free ride on this so far since all my websites belonged to an INTRAnet > > inside a NYC goverment agency which standardized on IE... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is that what a framework would encapsulate? And if I use that, > would > > I be able to read my own code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Douglas Knudsen > > > > Sent: Feb 18, 2008 9:55 AM > > > > To: discussion@acfug.org > > > > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Another Question From Rip Van Winkle > > > > > > > > I suggest looking at using a framework. This would be a Good Thing > as > > it would encapsulate these issues for you. Frameworks for JS include > Spry, > > Dojo, JQuery, and the list could go on and on. > > > > > > > > DK > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 18, 2008 9:44 AM, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > First go get firebug for firefox... that will help you with the > dom > > navigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firefox parentElement = parentNode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Peyton Todd > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again from the CF5 programmer trying to catch up. > > > > > > > > > > > > I always used to write for Internet Explorer, and did so again > after > > my return to programming a few months ago, resulting in what is by now a > > rather complex site. Many CF (and other internet-based) programmers have > > told me since then that I should have written for Firefox, and I now > wish I > > had, because of it's debugging abilities. But... > > > > > > > > > > > > How easy will it be to convert my existing code to run on > Firefox? > > Specifically, there are three functions I'm making heavy use of: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. getElementById > > > > > > 2. parentElement > > > > > > 3. children[] > > > > > > > > > > > > According to my latest DOM book (O'Reilly, published 1998 - yes, > I > > know I need a new one) none of these exists in Netscape (same as > Firefox, > > right?). And sure enough I get error messages at least with the first > one (I > > never get past there to the others). So my question is: > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the Firefox way to do each of them? (According to my > > O'Reilly book, document.all[] doesn't exist in Netscape, either.) > > > > > > > > > > > > One catch is: I would very much like to avoid giving unique > names to > > everything, for two reasons: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There are lots and lots of them. This is a roll-my-own > > HIERARCHICAL grid of sorts with buttons to insert and delete new rows on > > both of two levels. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. All my update code makes heavy use of the fact that, when > items > > in a form have the same name (as they do in each successive row in my > grid), > > CF sends up the values as a comma-delimited list of values which I then > loop > > through. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > Peyton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > > > > > > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > > > > > > > > > > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > > > > > > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > > > > > > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Steven Ross > > > > > web application & interface developer > > > > > http://blog.stevensross.com > > > > > [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] 267-482-4364 > > > > > [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ] > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > > > > > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > > > > > > > > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > > > > > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > > > > > List hosted by FusionLink > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Douglas Knudsen > > > > http://www.cubicleman.com > > > > this is my signature, like it? 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