Okay, I understand what your saying now.  I agree, reliability is key.
 Maybe a second firewall for customers who want that specifically.
This will be a major point failure.  :-)  Thanks!

Tony

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Greg Hennessy <greg.henne...@nviz.net> wrote:
> I'm saying that for a hosted site style deployment that one shouldn't attempt 
> to cover the lot with a single point of inspection.
>
> If/when PFSense offers virtualized instances like say Juniper VSYS, then each 
> site [cw]ould have it's own dedicated firewall/I[DP]S instance.
> Change control etc can then be applied at the most appropriate level.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Zakula [mailto:tonyzak...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 10 February 2011 3:36 PM
>> To: discussion@pfsense.com
>> Subject: Re: [pfSense-discussion] Considering Switching to Pfsense
>>
>> Wow!  Cool.  So the IDS is built in.
>>
>> Greg, are you saying you can enable or disable Snort on an ip address
>> basis?  Some ips get it and some do not?  Can you expound on that a
>> little?  I always assumed it was firewall wide, or are you saying each
>> hosted site would have their own IDS or paying customers would be
>> behind another router/firewall?
>>
>> Thanks for all this great info!
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Greg Hennessy <greg.henne...@nviz.net>
>> wrote:
>> > For hosted sites, I would suggest enablement on a site by site basis.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > A change control snafu/bad update could kill everything otherwise.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Tim Dressel [mailto:tjdres...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: 10 February 2011 3:29 PM
>> > To: discussion@pfsense.com
>> > Subject: Re: [pfSense-discussion] Considering Switching to Pfsense
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The snort plugin has this functionality built in. Just enter your
>> oink code
>> > and set how often you want it to update.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Tony Zakula <tonyzak...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, but I was just wondering if this is routing for say several
>> > hundred hosted sites, if it would be appropriate to do that on the
>> > main router or not.  I guess you could start with that, but then turn
>> > it off right?
>> >
>> > How then do people update their rules if they are using say snort?
>> > Purchase a contract direct?  Any other solutions out there for
>> > Pfsense?
>> >
>> > Tony Z
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Greg Hennessy
>> <greg.henne...@nviz.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Any thoughts on whether IDS is appropriate at the perimeter or not?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> If you take a look at any serious commercial firewall offering on
>> the
>> >> market, integrated IDS/IPS is the order of the day.
>> >>
>> >> More sophisticated solutions offer application control.
>> >>
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