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I just converted Mailman 3 to use zc.buildout. Thanks to Gary Poster for providing some good examples and the impetus for my force vacation hacking. :)

I especially like being able to specify defaults in my ~/.buildout/ default.cfg file. One thing that bugs me though is that I can't use environment variables like $HOME there. This is a minor pain because I can't share my .buildout directory between Linux and OS X machines (say, via version control). It appears as though I have to be explicit in the path, with /Users/barry on OS X and /home/barry on Linux.

Similarly, in my buildout.cfg file, if I include a develop field pointing to some source directories (other than .), I can't use $HOME/ projects/foo/bar here.

Any thoughts on supporting environment variables in .cfg files? Or do they work and I'm just experiencing operator error? ;)

A couple of other minor questions. In my ~/.buildout/default.cfg file, I have

[buildout]
eggs-directory=/Users/barry/.buildout/eggs
download-cache=/Users/barry/.buildout/download-cache

This is great because I can share that stuff between lots of development branches. However buildout will create the eggs directory if needed, but complain that download-cache doesn't exist. It seems like buildout could/should create download-cache on demand.

I'm also wondering, does it make sense to put develop-eggs and parts in say ~/.buildout? I kind of dislike having artifacts like these live in my version controlled source directory (well, there's bin too, but I can kind of live with that). What's the best way of doing that?

Thanks,
Barry

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