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Today's Topics:

  1. SPAMCANNIBAL (Garey Barrell)
  2. SPAMCANNIBAL (Garey Barrell)
  3. T-4XC T/R relay (Paul)
  4. Re: T-4XC T/R relay (Steve Wedge)
  5. Re: T-4XC T/R relay (Al Parker)
  6. Re: T-4XC T/R relay (Garey Barrell)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:00:11 -0400
From: Garey Barrell <k4...@mindspring.com>
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Subject: [Drakelist] SPAMCANNIBAL
Message-ID: <4f787b8b.2060...@mindspring.com>
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Is anyone else having problems with Drakelist? Or more accurately SPAMCANNIBAL.

The message I just posted had to be sent three times before it went through.

Perhaps this is why there is so little activity on Drakelist.

DrakeRadio is looking more and more attractive.

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73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:12:12 -0400
From: Garey Barrell <k4...@mindspring.com>
To: drakelist <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Subject: [Drakelist] SPAMCANNIBAL
Message-ID: <4f789a7c.40...@mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


Thanks for the replies. This seems to be some sort of SPAM trap on one of the links between me and the Drakelist server. I have NO spam controls via my provider, other than their standard stuff, which seems to work quite well. Once every two-three weeks I'll get a message from them with a message that they believe 'could' be spam, but so far they've all been spam! Between that and the JUNK system on SeaMonkey which has been 'trained' over the last year or so, I rarely see more than 3-5 spam messages a week. So far the JUNK system has NOT trapped anything that was NOT spam.

That's all great for incoming, but this SPAMCANNIBAL crap only shows up 'sometimes' between me and Drakelist. I have to send something 3-4 times before it finally goes through, and I guess that message has just taken an alternate path to the one SC is on. Other times, stuff just sails
through.  But the frequency has taken a nasty turn the month or so.

For whatever reason, this is ONLY a problem with Drakelist.

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73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>




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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:18:22 -0400
From: Paul <draked...@comcast.net>
To: "drakel...@.zerobeat.net" <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Subject: [Drakelist] T-4XC T/R relay
Message-ID: <4f78c61e.7090...@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I recently acquired a " parts unit" T4XC........looks to good to be a
parts rig so I am going to make an attempt at saving it.
Somewhere along the line someone hijacked the T/R relay.
Is the relay for a TR7 the same relay,or is it a different part number?
I have one in the junkbox,but want to make certain before I plug it in &
possibly smoke something in the T4XC by putting in wrong relay

Thanks
Paul



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:27:10 -0400
From: "Steve Wedge" <w1es1...@earthlink.net>
To: "Paul" <draked...@comcast.net>, "drakel...@.zerobeat.net"
<drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4XC T/R relay
Message-ID: <8EDDEDA593D449428D5630882DE48F96@Shack7>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

Paul -

I don't think they're interchangeable, but I'm somewhat surprised that I
can't find any information about the relay in either the T-4X manual or
Garey's CD.  I might just be tired.

The coil of that relay goes from the +250V supply to plate of the VOX
control tube V10. It may need to drop a fair amount of voltage across that coil. I've also heard of some folks modifying the circuit so that they can
use a relay with a lower-voltage coil.

73,

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.
John Stark.

All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended
thereto.


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From: "Paul" <draked...@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:18 PM
To: "drakel...@.zerobeat.net" <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Subject: [Drakelist] T-4XC T/R relay

I recently acquired a " parts unit" T4XC........looks to good to be a
parts rig so I am going to make an attempt at saving it.
Somewhere along the line someone hijacked the T/R relay.
Is the relay for a TR7 the same relay,or is it a different part number?
I have one in the junkbox,but want to make certain before I plug it in &
possibly smoke something in the T4XC by putting in wrong relay

Thanks
Paul

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:44:11 -0400
From: Al Parker <anc...@ec.rr.com>
To: Steve Wedge <w1es1...@earthlink.net>
Cc: "drakel...@.zerobeat.net" <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4XC T/R relay
Message-ID: <4f78e84b.1060...@ec.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Paul,
Garey must have gone out for a long supper.  Here's what he said about
5 yrs ago:

GAREY - K4OAH <k4...@mindspring.com> made an utterance to the drakelist gang
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Check your old relay.  If it is a 15k ohm coil, you'll need to add a
1.5k, 1/2W resistor in series with the coil to replace it with the P&B
R10-E1Y4-V2.5K relay available from Mouser, Digi-Key and others.  The
15k relays were unreliable because of the very fine wire required to get
the high impedance.  The wire broke either at the terminals from
corrosion or inside the coil from temperature excursions.  The
replacement is very reliable.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

Drake 2-B, 4B & C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>
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Since you don't have your old relay, maybe you should add a 15k res. &
see if it works.  But maybe with your T-4XC it's late enough that the
replacement would have gone in at the factory.  Butt  -- Garey's old
response did have T-4XC in the subject.
73,

Al, W8UT
www.boatanchors.org
www.hammarlund.info

"There is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much
worth doing as simply messing about in boats"
Ratty, to Mole



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:46:49 -0400
From: Garey Barrell <k4...@mindspring.com>
To: drakelist <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4XC T/R relay
Message-ID: <4f791319.90...@mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"

Paul, Al and others -

The resistor is a 1.5k, (1W is better). I don't know when Drake specifically changed over, but if your T-4XC doesn't already have the resistor between Pins 6 and 9 of V10, you need to add it. See
attached sheet from the CD.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>


Al Parker wrote:
Hi Paul,
Garey must have gone out for a long supper. Here's what he said about 5 yrs ago:

GAREY - K4OAH <k4...@mindspring.com> made an utterance to the drakelist gang
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Check your old relay. If it is a 15k ohm coil, you'll need to add a 1.5k, 1/2W resistor in series with the coil to replace it with the P&B R10-E1Y4-V2.5K relay available from Mouser, Digi-Key and others. The 15k relays were unreliable because of the very fine wire required to get the high impedance. The wire broke either at the terminals from corrosion or inside the coil from
temperature excursions.  The replacement is very reliable.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

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Since you don't have your old relay, maybe you should add a 15k res. & see if it works. But maybe with your T-4XC it's late enough that the replacement would have gone in at the factory.
Butt  -- Garey's old response did have T-4XC in the subject.

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