Hans, The DXCC Desk has publicly said in multiple forums that the 7O1YGF group has NEVER presented any documentation other than a few pictures showing the group in "some Arab country." If written documentation - license, permission to operate and stamped passports - exist, scan it an post it on the web site for the rest of the world to see and evaluate.
If you can't or wont post it, the ARRL statement remains unchallenged. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 2:26 PM > To: Ron Notarius W3WN > Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org > Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O > > > Sir, > > thats exactly what I didnt tell YOU. > Asking you again to withdraw what you wrote under point 2. > You are guessing and it is not the truth. > > > > Ron Notarius W3WN schrieb: > > Sir, > > > > If it is not true, then what was submitted, to whom, when, > and where? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:19 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org > > Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > just to clarify. I'm a member of the 7O1YGF team. > > > > I ask you kindly that you withdraw what you wrote under > point 2, as it > > is NOT TRUE! > > > > Hans, one of 7O1YGF > > > > Ron Notarius W3WN schrieb: > >> Well, I don't know about 7O7AA or 7O8AA (and yes, Osten, I > do recall your > >> email from back in March, obviously you have more > information at your > >> disposal than I do). Things may have changed after those > licenses were > >> issued, and especially after the two Yemens merged back > into one country. > >> Or the Aden Branch may have had the authority at one time > and does not > >> anymore. Or they overstepped their authority the first > time or two and > > was > >> approval from the Saana may have come retroactively, > something they no > >> longer wish to do. I could continue to speculate, but we > may never know. > >> > >> As far as the "documentation problem" with 7O1YGF goes, > remember two > > things: > >> (1) The 7O1YGF team advertised quite often prior to the > DXpedition that > >> they had a license. Or at least that they had permission. > This was > >> re-iterated during and after the DXpedition... but the > elusive "license" > > or > >> "permission to operate" never appears to have either (a) > been put on > > paper, > >> and/or (b) been seen in the light of day by anyone outside of the > >> DXpedition. > >> > >> (2) The 7O1YGF team has never submitted ANY documentation > to the DXCC > > desk > >> to have the operation approved for DXCC credit. Just some > photos that > > were > >> given to N7NG at Friedrichshafen. > >> > >> Let us all also bear in mind that this has happened > before. There are > > more > >> than a few operations by EU ops from Central America that > have not been > >> approved due to lack of documentation. It does make one wonder... > >> > >> And yes, I recall the story about Vlad too. Funny that > they would tell > > him > >> no license had ever been issued except the one to the > Sultan of Kuwait, > > yet > >> we know of licenses (or at least "permission to operate" > -- same thing but > >> technically not quite? Are they hair splitting?) that > have been issued, > >> such as 7O/OH2YY. So one wonders what the real story > is... again, we may > >> never know. > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Osten B > >> Magnusson > >> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:41 PM > >> To: Zack Widup; dx-chat@njdxa.org > >> Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O > >> > >> > >> > >> As far as I know the "no good" license for 7O1A was issued > >> by the Aden Branch of The Yemen Telecom, and the head > >> office in the capital Saana said that the Aden Branch was not > >> authorized to issue licenses. BUT also the 7O8AA and 7O7AA > >> operations took place from Aden (according to the information > >> I have). Maybe also 7O1AA. Can the "documentation problem" > >> for 7O1YGF be as simple as they also had authorization only > >> from the Aden Branch? > >> > >> Vlad, UA4WHX, was in Saana in early 2005 but did not operate > >> as he could not get a license - he told us that the ministry said > >> that only one license had been issued, for The Sultan of Kuwait, > >> but he never used it. > >> > >> Search Google UA4WHX + Yemen and you will find a lot of > >> information. > >> > >> 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Zack Widup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <dx-chat@njdxa.org> > >> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 7:08 PM > >> Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O > >> > >> > >>> I really don't know much about that country's government. > Are there > >>> different factions struggling for power, or claiming authority in > >>> different areas? > >>> > >>> Is it possible some faction claims it can issue licenses, > but in fact it > >>> isn't considered the real agency who issues licenses? > >>> > >>> 73, Zack W9SZ > >>> > >>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, KR4DA wrote: > >>> > >>>> If you visit the Yemem tourist center just about anybody > can go there. > >> They > >>>> have 5 star hotels etc.. > >>>> But what I don't get is who is the official that the ARRL wants a > > receipt > >>>> from of being there and counting as official. > >>>> They will tell you it doesn't count. Tell me what you > need from who to > >> count. > >>>> I have worked 7O1A and 7O1YGF I need 7O as a one of two > left to be > >> acceptable > >>>> by ARRL. > >>>> > >>> Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > >>> http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > >>> > >>> To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > >>> > >>> This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > >>> http://njdxa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > >> http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > >> > >> To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > >> > >> This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > >> http://njdxa.org > >> > >> > >> > >> Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > >> http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > >> > >> To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > >> > >> This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > >> http://njdxa.org > >> > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
