Oh, how I couldn't agree more with these comments, they've hit the nail on the 
proverbial head. 

Nick W9UM 


War, Pestilence, Famine and Death....No prisoners and shoot all survivors. 

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I'm replying to this on DX-CHAT. 

A lot of those excellent ops are no longer with us. For whatever else he got 
involved in, Don Miller was one of the best CW ops ever and could sit there and 
churn out QSO's as you describe. So could Danny Weil, the Colvins, Ron ZL1AMO, 
Rudi DJ5CQ, G3SWH, Baldur DJ6SI, and many others. Many of these are now Silent 
Keys and I haven't heard too much lately from some of the others. 



I have noticed some of the same things in pileups lately. There was a 
discussion on another list about DXpeditions now using Skimmer to identify 
stations in the pileups. I have nothing against using technology to augment 
skill, but if technology replaces skill altogether, it will not be good. 


73, Zack W9SZ 




On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM, ragnar otterstad < la...@yahoo.no > wrote: 





Food for thought !   




Is my memory failing me, or do I remember a time when DXpeditions used to have 
CW ops that could churn out QSOs at a rate of 150-180 an hour, hour after hour 
with virtually no drama and with a reasonable knowledge of propagation? 

With the odd exception, all l hear now is an operator that is like a rabbit 
caught in a car's headlights, hopelessly trawling across 15-20KHz of a boiling 
pileup for 30-40 seconds before managing to extract a two letter fragment of a 
call sign, throw it back at the pileup with 599 tacked on the end, fully 
expecting this to result in a QSO. 

Then throw in a few time saving "tricks" such as sending at 40wpm, with a 
speeded up RST, only sending his call every 15 minutes, sending "dit dit" where 
clearly a "TU DX1DX UP" is needed, abandoning QSOs halfway through,  not 
confirming a queried call correction, insisting on working an area to which 
there is no propagation on the strength of working one superstation there, 
working by numbers etc etc. What a mess! 

The result?....... a situation where only the Loud, Lucky and the continuous 
calling Lid prosper. 
It seems the quality of an operation is now judged by the speed the QSOs can be 
uploaded to LOTW, Clublog or the like, rather than the skill of the operator. 
Perhaps a small scale operation from a less needed entity, or a few hours using 
"Pileup runner" would give these guys an idea what to expect before launching 
themselves off to a rare one. 
I just can't imagine what pleasure they can derive from operating like 
this......a bit like me trying to conduct a symphony orchestra and expecting it 
to be alright on the night! 

73 Steve G4EDG 


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