Have been sort of following this thread but haven't kept all the messages to
go back and refer to. But I do agree with whoever made the comment about
checking with the node sysop that you are trying to stay connected to. I use
DXTelnet and have been connected to a node for the past three days without
any drops that I am aware of. DXTelnet does have a keep alive feature and a
reconnection option that you can enable and it interfaces to DX4WIN very
easily.

My ISP is Mediacom and all my "stuff" is behind a Linksys BEFW11S4
router/firewall/switch/access point. I have experienced dropout problems in
the past but switching nodes solved the problem. That tells me that all
nodes aren't created equal even though they may be running the same
software.

Good luck......

Pete, NN9K

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Garry Shapiro
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout

Since Tony, N2TK, is out of touch, this is to others following this thread.

I upgraded the firmware for my LinkSys BEFSR41 to the latest version,
1.42.7, and there is no reference to either "connect on demand" or "keep
alive" in this version. This was confirmed in several conversations with
LinkSys Support yesterday. Also, my ISP apparently does not support PPPoE in
any case, and enabling that option cripples my connection.

LinkSys suggested that the timeout might be due to something my ISP does,
but my ISP tech told me they do no such thing, so we have obviously reached
the I-don't-know-I-am-grabbing-at-straws point with LinkSys.

The newer firmware appears to have no effect on the timeout problem here.

That leaves the earlier suggestion to place this PC outside the
DMZ/firewall, which would expose it to the creatures of the jungle. There
are software firewalls available, but my pal W6WA, who is the IT guru at the
company for which I sometimes consult, strongly recommends the "hardware"
firewalls provided by the router.

I'm no computer weenie, so, at this point, I am stalemated.

Garry, NI6T

> -----Original Message-----
> From: N2TK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 14:58
> To: 'Garry Shapiro'; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
>
>
> Gary, I'm at an airport getting ready to board a plane. Won't be able to
> check my setup for a week till I get back.
> I'm using a DSL connection. I have not upgraded the software with the
> router. When I looked at the router configuration from the http site, the
> last two lines referred to "keep alive". Also, I do have PPPOe checked as
> instructed by my ISP, Verizon
> Tony.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garry Shapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
>
> Tony:
>
> I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I experience unwanted
> and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen
> interest.
>
> I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware
> version--1.34.
> A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and
> triggered serious
> problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was
> not at all
> trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal.
> Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary
> principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
>
> I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently
> disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP to make sure
> whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do not need it
> for basic functionality with this ISP.
>
> I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use
> context?
>
> What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection?
>
> Garry, NI6T
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30
> > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
> >
> >
> > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX
> > Telnet.
> > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on
> demand" is not
> > checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked.
> > Tony
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of KC9JS, John
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
> >
> > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no
> > problems at all
> > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that,
> > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using
> > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So
> your problem
> > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be
> something you
> > should look it.
> > 73 de John/KC9JS
> > Twin Lakes, WI
> > *************************************
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
> >
> >
> > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would
> seem to think
> > > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the
> > telnet
> > > session.  You should have some user-definable parameters in any
> > router to
> > > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts.
> > >
> > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has
> > been fully
> > > explored.  Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help
> desks don't
> > > always have the answers.  I've found that out from personal
> experience.
> > >
> > >
> > > 73;
> > > Kurt - W2MW
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM
> > > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
> > >
> > > Hi Alan,
> > >
> > > I just read your note today.  I have had this same problem ever since
> > going
> > > to a
> > > cable modem over a year ago.  My telnet sessions would drop
> > anywhere from
> > 2
> > > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were
> not just to
> > > DXClusters that had the problem.  I use telnet to other
> systems such as
> > > routers
> > > and Linux machines.  They all had the same problem.
> > >
> > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch.  In the past I
> > have tried
> > > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of
> > code
> > > that
> > > was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were
> > > inadvertent.
> > > Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic.
> > >
> > > What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced
> it with a
> > > Cisco
> > > 806.  The dropped sessions stopped.  I have had sessions up for a week
> > plus
> > > with
> > > no drops.  It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is
> loosing track of
> > > the
> > > telnet session somehow.
> > >
> > > The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router.  I have
> never tried
> > any
> > > of
> > > the other brands out there like D-Link, etc.  They may not have this
> > > problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > 73,  John  K0TG
> > >
> > >
> > > Alan Clark wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my
> > DX Spots to
> > > a
> > > > Cable Modem.  Since converting to the cable modem I notice
> > that it times
> > > out
> > > > and goes off line without any notification.  All I notice
> is that I am
> > > not
> > > > getting spots any more.  Works fine when I dial up the ISP,
> > but with the
> > > > cable modem it times out.  Any insight to a solution?
> > > >
> > > > Alan, N5PA
> > > >
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