my apple II, which I still have..
loaded the os from a cassette tape ( still have that also)
the floppy drives came later.
I sold for a company called Mountain Computer...
that had a 5M 1200$ hard drive add on for the apple II and the IBM PC
(it had no hard drive till the XT).... still might have that ,,,,
O yes... one of our illustrious founders was the chief engineer at
Mountain Computer about then.
bill ny9h/3
At 12:52 PM 5/28/2014, Dauer, Edward wrote:
One of the interesting pieces of that history, from a retail consumer
user's (layman's) point of view, is that the Apple II (I owned a II+ in
the late 1970s) used MS-DOS as its operating system before Apple developed
its own. As I recall, the OS was not resident in the early hardware - to
use it you first loaded DOS in through a 5" floppy, then used another 5"
floppy for data. (My memory is imperfect, but I believe that was
correct.) The original IBM PC also had 5" floppy drives. One was for the
App (such as WordStar) and the other for the data files. The 3" disk was
a much later development, and a great leap forward. The IBM PC, which I
bought in 1982 plus or minus a couple of years, cost me $5,000 in the
dollars of the day.
The most significant development, which some folks today don't remember or
never knew, is that e-mail and the Internet began as separate systems.
E-mail used ordinary phone lines in its earliest days. I remember well
sitting in airport boarding lounges with a set of alligator clips and a
screwdriver which I used to remove the cap from the modular telephone
jacks so I could dial up other members of our e-mail network. I don't
recall the year, but I do remember that when e-mail was merged with the
Internet the whole world changed.
The idea of controlling my radio equipment with my computer in the 70s
never occurred to me . . . .
Do I have that history right?
Ted, KN1CBR
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 06:39:23 -0500
>From: Jim Rogers <jim.w4...@gmail.com>
>To: d...@w3fpr.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or
> maybe not
>Message-ID: <5385caeb.8020...@gmail.com>
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>
>Actually Don, the Apple II preceded the IBM PC and had a very strong
>following. As the owner of a consulting firm that placed some Apple IIs
>doing some difficult, at that time, interfacing to main frames we
>welcomed the appearance of the IBM PC when it came on the scene. We had
>the second IBM PC in Birmingham and after a couple of days of evaluation
>recompiled our software and the rest was history.
>
>73s Jim, W4ATK
>On 5/27/2014 9:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> And those computers Tom Watson was speaking of took a large controlled
>> environment room just for the various pieces. It was certainly not a
>> desktop computer.
>> Desktop computers did not come into being until the advent of the IBM
>> PC in the 1980s. I bought my daughter a new IBM PC with 2 floppy
>> drives and 64k of ram for her to use in her college classes. It was
>> later upgraded with a 5 MB hard drive which replaced one of the floppy
>> drives (3.5 inch floppys).
>>
>> We have come a long way since that time. That system cost $2500 at
>> the time, now I can buy a computer with a LOT more capability for less
>> than $300.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 5/27/2014 9:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>>> At sometime in the 50's, the President of IBM is alleged to have
>>> said, "The worldwide market for computers is probably about twelve."
>>> Apparently he didn't know Doug.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Fred K6DGW
>>> - Northern California Contest Club
>>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
>>> - www.cqp.org
>>>
>>> On 5/27/2014 1:29 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:
>>>
>>>> I probably have 15 working computers.
>>>
>>
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