Here is the link. Forgot to add it at the end. Posting on a small screen
will get you.

https://sites.google.com/site/markstcxomeasurements/

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Nov 3, 2016 8:43 AM, "Mark Goldberg" <marklgoldb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Since you brought this up, I will post a link to my analysis of the
> knockoff "TCXOs" for the Kenwoods. You do get what you pay for, and you
> can't even buy good parts for what they charge.
>
> The added phase noise of the Chinese parts increases the phase noise of
> the TX by about 10 dB 15 kHz away. It also is full of spurs.
>
> Basically, if you were on a DXpedition with 100W, you would splatter and
> interfere like you had a kilowatt. By the way, the K3S with the new
> synthesizer is even better in this regard. It is at least 20 dB lower which
> would be more like if you had 1 W.
>
> Only the good RX filters in the Kenwood radio prevent degradation in RMDR
> on most bands. They basically made a really bad synthesizer, and made it
> look like a TCXO. There is a lot more to it than just being on frequency
>
> 73,
> W7MLG
>
> On Nov 2, 2016 3:05 PM, "Michael Walker" <va...@portcredit.net> wrote:
>
>> I bought a TCXO on ebay for  my TS480 (SO-3).  I installed it and then put
>> the RF deck in the oven and then outside (it was winter).
>>
>> I went through the Alignment calibration to see how far it drifted.  I
>> can't remember the exact number, but it was within limits in terms of PPM.
>> Which was great, as my TS480 sits outside all winter on the remote base
>> and
>> that is as low as -30C at times.   It has been there for 7 years now (or
>> more).
>>
>> For me, it was as test for $30 including shipping direct to my door.  It
>> looked exactly like the SO-3 @ $135  plus shipping.
>>
>> So, before you declare the entire electronics world as poison, you do need
>> to do your homework.
>>
>> Don't forget, this is an experimental hobby.
>>
>> Try Something....
>>
>> Mike va3mw
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Fred Jensen <k6...@foothill.net> wrote:
>>
>> > From my short experience with LiIon batteries from China ["Blue Bombs"],
>> > I'd save up my bucks and get the real Elecraft filters.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Fred K6DGW
>> > - Sparks NV DM09dn
>> >
>> > - Northern California Contest Club
>> > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
>> > - www.cqp.org
>> >
>> > On 11/2/2016 9:44 AM, AL7CR wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am tempted to try one of the Chinese made filters listed for sale on
>> >> Ebay.   Does anyone have any experience with using one?  I am
>> >> considering the 1.8khz.
>> >>
>> >
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