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- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Harrold > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 3:29 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 > > I have been using an inexpensive adaptor from Amazon for several weeks now. > Can't say what it is as in a joint effort a friend bought two adaptors after I > suggested it might couple to his hearing aids and I later bought inexpensive > headphones for both of us. Tag on back says model H-366T. Hangs toward the > ceiling in the Ham shack and I can listen in the den if I like. Very nice to be able > to move around the shack without being entangled in a cord. Has mic capability > as well but haven't looked into that yet. > > Gary W. Harrold > Retired, Amateur Radio Active > WA5TED > 806 790 0966 > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 5:11 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Elecraft Digest, Vol 161, Issue 1 > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KX2, spy radio (Dave Cole) > 2. Submission (Greg) > 3. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Phil Kane) > 4. Re: KX2, spy radio (Mike Morrow) > 5. Re: KX2, spy radio (Mike Morrow) > 6. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Jim Brown) > 7. Re: K1 Discontinued (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS) > 8. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Richard Lamont) > 9. The times they are a changin. (Glen Torr) > 10. Re: Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far > (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) > 11. Re: KX2, spy radio (Dave Sublette) > 12. OT: Spy Radio (Ken G Kopp) > 13. Re: KX2, spy radio (Charlie T, K3ICH) > 14. Re: KX2, spy radio (Jim Sheldon) > 15. OT: PC Board Software request (Jim Sheldon) > 16. Re: Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far > (jimk...@aol.com) > 17. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Phil Kane) > 18. Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Michael Chowning) > 19. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) > 20. Y-BOX Labor Day Weekend Special - Free Domestic Shipping > (Bob Wilson, N6TV) > 21. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Mel Farrer) > 22. Re: UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Jim Brown) > 23. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Jim Brown) > 24. KX3, IF for XV144 (vhf contesting) (XV144 update?) (Samir Popaja) > 25. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Mark Goldberg) > 26. Update on KXPD2 and KXPD3 paddles (Wayne Burdick) > 27. Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 (Yngvi (TF3Y)) > 28. Re: Portable Power for digital and Phone operation (Jim Brown) > 29. Re: Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 (GaryK9GS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:20:11 -0700 > From: Dave Cole <d...@nk7z.net> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > Message-ID: <4681b20a-d084-5c02-c0a9-0fb385b1d...@nk7z.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > That and counting change back... > > 73s and thanks, > Dave > NK7Z > http://www.nk7z.net > > On 08/31/2017 07:56 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: > > SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption. > > > > Much like cursive writing today is secret code for us "old" people. > > > > Chas > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stephen > > Peterson > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:34 PM > > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > > > > Imagine what the WWII resistance/spies would have given for a KX2! > > Fun and interesting to look at the equipment they were using. > > Steve, Ki7L > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > pin...@erols.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > d...@nk7z.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:28:45 -0600 > From: Greg <greg4...@att.net> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Submission > Message-ID: <2915f973-a3a4-40c5-a1cf-801f67d19...@att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:53:57 -0700 > From: Phil Kane <k2...@kanafi.org> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source > Message-ID: <7bd5c3f8-5896-b78b-b882-2a6a38780...@kanafi.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 8/31/2017 10:46 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > > > What I did as part of my ISP was to remove the batteries from my UPSes > > and replace 7 or 12Ah batteries with 100Ah batteries outside the case. > > > > That didn't get me to the 10 hours for maximum battery life, but it > > got me to 8 hours..... > > > > Jim's suggestion also lets you size the battery to run all the gear > > for more than a few minutes. > > I have 2 APC UPS devices - I moved one's 7 AH battery to an external container > where I have three of them in parallel. That UPS runs the > cable modem, router, and cordless phone system. The other one runs my > desktop computer and accessories. Because of the type of battery in the > machine, I would have to do serious soldering to attach external wires, which > would void the warranty. > > My standby power mentor/guru explained to me quite a few years ago that given > a large enough battery source, the limiting factor in most consumer-grade UPS is > the heating of the electronics. Both of those UPSes are running at about 15% of > "advertised capacity" which, according to APC's runtime curve, extends the run > time by a factor of 10. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 23:56:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > From: Mike Morrow <k...@earthlink.net> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > Message-ID: > <20263843.13890.1504241799...@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Here's a 1970-era small western world 'clandestine' set called the AVCO TAR- > 224A: > > http://www.cryptomuseum.com/spy/tar224/ > > It's about three times the bulk of the KX3, which is very small for the era and not > too large even by today's standards. It puts out 20 watts A1 or A3 from 2 to 24 > MHz, and is all solid state with auto antenna tuner and Morse key built onto the > front panel. (Sounds familiar.) This 47-year-old set will typically cost today more > than a new full-house KX3 if you find one for sale! I have one...it's the > provenance that attracts. Technically speaking, only its suitability for use in > unfavorable environmental conditions gives it any advantage over a KX3. > > Mike / KK5F > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Stephen Peterson <scpk...@gmail.com> > >Sent: Aug 31, 2017 8:33 PM > > > >Imagine what the WWII resistance/spies would have given for a KX2! Fun > >and interesting to look at the equipment they were using. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 00:09:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > From: Mike Morrow <k...@earthlink.net> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > Message-ID: > <21321892.13955.1504242546...@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Chas wrote: > > > SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption. > > Not even remotely so...SSB technology goes back decades before WWII. > > >From Wikipedia: > > "The first U.S. patent?for SSB modulation was applied for on December 1, 1915 > by John Renshaw Carson. The U.S. Navy experimented with SSB over its radio > circuits before?World War I. ?SSB first entered commercial service on January 7, > 1927 on the?longwave?transatlantic public radiotelephone circuit between New > York and London." > > Mike / KK5F > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:39:15 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: Jim McDonald <j...@n7us.net>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source > Message-ID: > <847c500c-26d2-bd25-cde1-ac3c37d4b...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 8/31/2017 3:26 PM, Jim McDonald wrote: > > I have an APC SmartUPS 700, which I bought many years ago from > > http://www.refurbups.com/. The manual says it's certified as Class B. > > Thanks Jim. I looked at a half-dozen APC UPS units advertised on that site about > 2 weeks ago, and studied their specs on the APC website. All were Class A. Things > change, of course, and I only checked those few units. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 00:31:18 -0700 (MST) > From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" <indi...@xsmail.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <1504251078502-0.p...@n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Roney, > congrats for your K1 jewel > nice pics on Flickr. > Yes, I am sure you will be really satisfied with that little rig. If it is properly > aligned then it works like champ anywhere you are. > maybe it is time to buy some additional parts until they will be gone... > Good luck! > 73 - Petr, OK1RP > > > > ----- > http://ok1rp.blogspot.com > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 09:05:46 +0100 > From: Richard Lamont <rich...@lamont.me.uk> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source > Message-ID: <da7b2252-3d0a-e3e7-1f84-90c1a1c31...@lamont.me.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 31/08/17 22:56, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 8/31/2017 11:35 AM, Tox wrote: > >> I had a couple racks of APC > >> SmartUPS 2000 units with daisychained batteries to give extended > >> holdup to a couple of racks of telecom and server hw. No clue how RF > >> noisy those units are, though. > > > > All of the APC units for which I've seen spec sheets are FCC Part 15 > > Class A (the industrial spec, ILLEGAL to sell for residential use, > > roughly 20 dB worse than Class B). > > I had a SmartUPS 750, and it was very bad. Put out crud all the way from VLF to > VHF. I threw it away in the end. In the shack I use a much older APC Back-UPS > 500 for the computer, which doesn't seem to cause any problems. I've had to > replace the battery every 3-4 years, but that's to be expected. > > > 73, > Richard G4DYA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:04:58 +1000 > From: Glen Torr <glen.t...@gmail.com> > To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] The times they are a changin. > Message-ID: > <CAP3kmB7EAPR2P_wOWEyqzNEMCm39KNf3U=vm5LZ-N5i- > =qq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Ho All, > > Absolutely no disrespect here, I am an extremely loyal and prolific Elecraft > user/builder. > > The KX1 and K1 are gone and the KPA 1500 is ascending. > > I have ordered a QRP Labs QCX, a very innovative and kit oriented radio. > > The mantle at the lower end has moved on. > > Cheers, > > Glen VK1FB > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 04:26:06 -0700 > From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <e...@elecraft.com> > To: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>, > "k...@yahoogroups.com" <k...@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Thanks for all the portable operation photos > so far > Message-ID: <3c7df6af-7c67-42f7-83a2-f8aa04ec7...@elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Wayne, > > These should be forwarded to Margaret and me for our promo use. > > Eric > elecraft.com > _..._ > > > > > On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote: > > > > I?ve received so many great photos already that I won?t be able to thank > everyone personally. But keep ?em coming. > > > > Clearly some folks had a lot more fun than I did this summer. > > > > 73, > > Wayne > > N6KR > > > > > > > >> On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> We?re looking for photos of you, your Elecraft portable gear, and great > outdoor locations to use in an upcoming newsletter article. We might also use > them on our website or in promotional literature. > >> > >> If you have photos you?d like to share, please send them to me directly. I > can?t guarantee they?ll be used now; possibly later. > >> > >> Please include one sentence that could be used as a caption. Extra points for > humor or lessons learned. > >> > >> 73, > >> Wayne > >> N6KR > >> > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > eric.swa...@elecraft.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 08:45:31 -0400 > From: Dave Sublette <k...@arrl.net> > To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > Message-ID: <da38b316-7f5c-42e4-8ba3-8684a52a3...@arrl.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > As a former CT ? I enjoyed the web page. Thanks for sharing. > > Dave, K4TO > > On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:09 AM, Mike Morrow <k...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > Chas wrote: > > > >> SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption. > > > > Not even remotely so...SSB technology goes back decades before WWII. > > > > From Wikipedia: > > > > "The first U.S. patent for SSB modulation was applied for on December 1, 1915 > by John Renshaw Carson. The U.S. Navy experimented with SSB over its radio > circuits before World War I. SSB first entered commercial service on January 7, > 1927 on the longwave transatlantic public radiotelephone circuit between New > York and London." > > > > Mike / KK5F > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > k...@arrl.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 06:57:40 -0600 > From: Ken G Kopp <kengk...@gmail.com> > To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Spy Radio > Message-ID: > <CAD4CdTNRYEqGD0K6LD3mkXMj1o4pOaqktYcH4TjMVU2dVgq55g@mail > .gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Google "RS-6". I had a set many years ago. Got them via Navy MARS as N0SJP. > > 73! > > K0PP > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 09:09:55 -0400 > From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" <pin...@erols.com> > To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > Message-ID: <004b01d32323$9e177000$da465000$@erols.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > And here I thought Art Collins invented SSB, like algore invented the internet > (wink-wink) > > Chas > > > (For all who take life too seriously this WAS intended to be humorous) > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sublette > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:46 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > > As a former CT ? I enjoyed the web page. Thanks for sharing. > > Dave, K4TO > > On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:09 AM, Mike Morrow <k...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > Chas wrote: > > > >> SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption. > > > > Not even remotely so...SSB technology goes back decades before WWII. > > > > From Wikipedia: > > > > "The first U.S. patent for SSB modulation was applied for on December 1, 1915 > by John Renshaw Carson. The U.S. Navy experimented with SSB over its radio > circuits before World War I. SSB first entered commercial service on January 7, > 1927 on the longwave transatlantic public radiotelephone circuit between New > York and London." > > > > Mike / KK5F > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > k...@arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to pin...@erols.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 14:01:27 +0000 > From: "Jim Sheldon" <w...@cox.net> > To: "Elecraft Mailing List" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > Message-ID: <em579cbec1-9311-4f9b-8f77-ef1814123ccb@jimsdesktop-pc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 > > Naw, he just figured out a practical way to use it in smaller radios by the > invention of the narrow bandwidth, very steep skirted "mechanical" > filter to lop off the unwanted sideband (if you consider the radios of that day > smaller - LOL). The real use of SSB came when General LeMay of SAC adopted it > for their world wide HF communications network and propagation conditions > during that time were so good that it was almost impossible NOT to > communicate anywhere you wanted to with SSB. > > W0EB > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" <pin...@erols.com> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: 9/1/2017 8:09:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > > >And here I thought Art Collins invented SSB, like algore invented the > >internet (wink-wink) > > > >Chas > > > > > >(For all who take life too seriously this WAS intended to be humorous) > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > >[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sublette > >Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:46 AM > >To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2, spy radio > > > >As a former CT ? I enjoyed the web page. Thanks for sharing. > > > >Dave, K4TO > >>On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:09 AM, Mike Morrow <k...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >>Chas wrote: > >> > >>>SSB would have been the equivalent of encryption. > >> > >>Not even remotely so...SSB technology goes back decades before WWII. > >> > >>From Wikipedia: > >> > >>"The first U.S. patent for SSB modulation was applied for on December > >>1, 1915 by John Renshaw Carson. The U.S. Navy experimented with SSB > >>over its radio circuits before World War I. SSB first entered > >>commercial service on January 7, 1927 on the longwave transatlantic > >>public radiotelephone circuit between New York and London." > >> > >>Mike / KK5F > >>______________________________________________________________ > >>Elecraft mailing list > >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > >>list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > >>k...@arrl.net > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >Message delivered to pin...@erols.com > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >Message delivered to w...@cox.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 15:28:39 +0000 > From: "Jim Sheldon" <w...@cox.net> > To: "Elecraft Mailing List" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: PC Board Software request > Message-ID: <eme3be3e80-c029-492f-bc9c-6284a816247e@jimsdesktop-pc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 > > Anyone out there have an old copy of the "Copper Connection" PCB > software that no longer use and are willling to part with? Since > Express PCB bought them out I can't find the software anymore. I need > something that will produce the "Gerber" files that pretty much all the > PCB manufacturers need to do production PCB's even in limited > quantities. > > Please reply off list to keep the clutter (and Eric's wrath) to a > minimum - LOL. > > Jim - W0EB > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 12:12:11 -0400 > From: jimk...@aol.com > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Thanks for all the portable operation photos > so far > Message-ID: <15e3e36ca5e-c08-31...@webjas-vae062.srv.aolmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > For a couple of photos of the joys of playing with Elecraft radios, check out my > operation in the 2017 ARRL DX CW contest. The photos don't include my K3, and > would not likely be considered suitable for publication, but anyway: > > http://floridacontestgroup.org/contest-gazette/ > > And check out page 10 of the March 2017 issue. > > Contesting is good when you head to the salt water! > > BTW, I have since discovered that the Prius, when parked with the car "ON", will > keep the 12 volt battery pretty well charged from the hybrid battery, with little or > no RFI. > > > 73 - Jim K8MR > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <e...@elecraft.com> > To: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>; KX3 > <k...@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 7:28 am > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Thanks for all the portable operation photos so far > > Wayne,These should be forwarded to Margaret and me for our promo > use.Ericelecraft.com_..._> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Wayne Burdick > <n...@elecraft.com> wrote:> > I?ve received so many great photos already that > I won?t be able to thank everyone personally. But keep ?em coming.> > Clearly > some folks had a lot more fun than I did this summer. > > 73,> Wayne> N6KR> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 10:32:02 -0700 > From: Phil Kane <k2...@kanafi.org> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source > Message-ID: <6a3afd08-1500-0e47-b0dc-e8562d9c5...@kanafi.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 8/31/2017 2:56 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > > All of the APC units for which I've seen spec sheets are FCC Part 15> Class A > (the industrial spec, ILLEGAL to sell for residential use,> > roughly 20 dB worse than Class B). > > The spec sheets for both of my APC UPS devices (BE550R and BX1500G) > specify FCC Part 15 Class B. > > > Second, a local computer guru, AE6KS, has observed that most UPS mfrs > charge batteries at too fast a rate for good battery life. > > Both spec sheets show a recharge time of 16 hours. Is that "too fast"? > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 13:37:44 -0400 > From: Michael Chowning <mike.chown...@mgccc.org> > To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation > Message-ID: <a2db58f7-be0d-490c-978c-d88ffd5ea...@mgccc.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am seeking your > recommendation. I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500. > > I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop, > buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on outings > to community events (like festivals, etc). My options, I?m considering are: > > 1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator > 2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option) > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > 1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?) > 2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?) > 2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the above > battery (brand, model, adapters?) > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++ > > My questions: > 1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two choices > above? Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two? > 2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason to > choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the choices > about battery voltages and amp?s needed to operate as stated above. > > It?s noisy but the generator option seems on the surface much simpler for setup. > However, from the perspective of demonstration of Amateur Radio today, the > solar and battery option appears to be more demonstrative of the state of > Amateur Radio today. Being 77 yrs old, I don?t want to get over my head in > technology (though I love such). > Thanks for your thoughtful recommendations. > Mike, N8TTR > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 10:47:53 -0700 > From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source > Message-ID: > <2a0cef39-96df-bee2-7776-b2995cddc...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Keep in mind that by code, a device plugged into a 15 amp circuit must > not draw more than 12 amps continuous. > > When you get into the larger UPSes, they might want to charge really > fast, but charging at a high rate and carrying the rated load will > exceed 12 amps. > > So depending on the rating of the unit, and the recommended input > circuit, some models will definitely charge slow. > > 16 hours is not too fast for charging. If the UPS can't carry the load > for ten hours, then the discharge rate is WAY TOO FAST. > > Most UPSes are designed to carry the load for about 15 minutes, so if > you aren't killing the battery charging, you're killing it discharging. > > 73 -- Lynn > > On 9/1/2017 10:32 AM, Phil Kane wrote: > >> Second, a local computer guru, AE6KS, has observed that most UPS mfrs > charge batteries at too fast a rate for good battery life. > > > Both spec sheets show a recharge time of 16 hours. Is that "too fast"? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:16:46 -0700 > From: "Bob Wilson, N6TV" <n...@arrl.net> > To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>, Elecraft K3 Yahoo > Group <elecraft...@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Elecraft] Y-BOX Labor Day Weekend Special - Free Domestic > Shipping > Message-ID: > <CAOmNKG+1U=D5M6dQ4m1_XhG0o1jbwthATyrVEpdCPfv3Ud8zgA@mai > l.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > All Y-BOX orders received before midnight Pacific Time on Labor Day (by > 2017-09-05 07:00 UTC) will qualify for *free domestic shipping via USPS > Priority Mail*. Limit: 3 Y-BOXs per customer. > > International orders received by the same deadline will qualify for > discounted shipping (discounted by same dollar amount as domestic shipping). > > The Y-BOX is a 4-way passive splitter and breakout box for the Elecraft K3 > and K3S accessory port. The main value is the elimination of a tangle of > unreliable Y-Cable connections when you have multiple devices that all need > to connect to the same ACC/AUX connector, including: > > 1. KAT500 / KPA500 / KPA1500 cable (KPAK3AUX). > 2. Band Decoder > 3. FSK keying interface > 4. SO2R box > 5. Remote Rig Interface > > The Y-BOX can also be used as a breakout box for any device that uses a > 15-pin "VGA" style accessory connector (DE-15), including the Flex 6000 > series, ACOM Amplifiers, and the 4O3A Antenna Genius. > > For photos, details, and the order link, please visit my web site. Order > any time before midnight PT Monday to receive free domestic shipping: > > https://bit.ly/Y-BOX > > Thanks, and Happy Labor Day! > > 73, > Bob, N6TV > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 18:19:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Mel Farrer <farrerfo...@yahoo.com> > To: Michael Chowning <mike.chown...@mgccc.org>, Elecraft Reflector > <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation > Message-ID: <934675409.1341210.1504289948...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > While I don't this much anymore, I would consider the generator for situations > where solar is not an option. > Honda 2000i ~$1100 > > Jinko Solar 280W Eagle - Monocrystalline PERC Solar Module - 60 Cell - Silver > Frame > > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Jinko Solar 280W Eagle - Monocrystalline PERC Solar Module - 60 Cell - Silv... > High-Efficient Mono Crystalline Module Intergrated with Passivated Emmiter > Rear Contact (PERC) technology, 4-bus... | | > > | > > | > > $158.67 ?2X or 560 watts for <$350 > Solar is more pubic friendly albeit more ground space.Will handle your power > load during the day and quite a while on the battery alone. > > Mel, K6KBE > > From: Michael Chowning <mike.chown...@mgccc.org> > To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 10:54 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation > > Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am seeking your > recommendation.? I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500. > > I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop, > buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on outings > to community events (like festivals, etc).? My options, I?m considering are: > > 1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator > 2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option) > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > 1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?) > 2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?) > 2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the above > battery (brand, model, adapters?) > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++ > > My questions: > 1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two choices > above?? Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two? > 2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason to > choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the choices > about battery voltages and amp?s needed to operate as stated above. > > It?s noisy but the generator option seems on the surface much simpler for > setup.? However, from the perspective of demonstration of Amateur Radio > today, the solar and battery option appears to be more demonstrative of the > state of Amateur Radio today.? Being 77 yrs old, I don?t want to get over my > head in technology (though I love such). > Thanks for your thoughtful recommendations. > ? ? ? Mike, N8TTR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to farrerfo...@yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:31:57 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source > Message-ID: > <55c9cb0b-eff5-5856-b41a-45005ca14...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > No, that's just about ideal for battery life. > > 73, Jim > > On 9/1/2017 10:32 AM, Phil Kane wrote: > >> Second, a local computer guru, AE6KS, has observed that most UPS mfrs > charge batteries at too fast a rate for good battery life. > > Both spec sheets show a recharge time of 16 hours. Is that "too fast"? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:41:21 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation > Message-ID: > <4bda1a61-9185-f54b-a2c6-9fcbdad75...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > There's no way you're going to run a KPA500 on battery.? IMO, power amps > are totally out of place on FD, which I've always seen as a "barefoot" > or QRP event. > > We do county expeditions for QSO parties like 7QP and CQP, and run two > or three stations, each consisting of a K3, KPA500, KAT500, and P3/SVGA. > Each station is powered by a Honda 2000i running in Econmode. They make > some RF noise, which must be filtered with a good multi-turn ferrite > choke. Follow the guidelines for chokes on RG8-size cable > (k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf), and place the choke right at the generator. > Commercial line filters do NOT work. > > My neighbor W6GJB converted his 2000i to propane, and loves it. Mine is > still burning petrol. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On 9/1/2017 10:37 AM, Michael Chowning wrote: > > Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am seeking > your recommendation. I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500. > > > > I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop, > buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on outings > to community events (like festivals, etc). My options, I?m considering are: > > > > 1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator > > 2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option) > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > 1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?) > > 2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?) > > 2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the above > battery (brand, model, adapters?) > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++ > > > > My questions: > > 1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two > choices above? Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two? > > 2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason to > choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the choices > about battery voltages and amp?s needed to operate as stated above. > > > > It?s noisy but the generator option seems on the surface much simpler for > setup. However, from the perspective of demonstration of Amateur Radio > today, the solar and battery option appears to be more demonstrative of the > state of Amateur Radio today. Being 77 yrs old, I don?t want to get over my > head in technology (though I love such). > > Thanks for your thoughtful recommendations. > > Mike, N8TTR > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to j...@audiosystemsgroup.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 21:11:05 +0200 > From: "Samir Popaja" <7...@comhem.se> > To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, IF for XV144 (vhf contesting) (XV144 update?) > Message-ID: <000e01d32356$0fca9290$2f5fb7b0$@comhem.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, > > > > I'm wondering how good the KX3 is for IF with XV144 in VHF contesting. > > > > I have use K3 previously and now )Iwould like to have something little > smaller but with same good performance. > > > > Little worried after I read this review: > > http://ve3vn.blogspot.se/2015/02/kx3-review-by-qrp-dxer-and-contester.html > > > > Is any chance for Elecraft to make (KIT UPDATE) for XV144 to use IF on > 14MHz, the most transceivers has much better characteristic on 14MHz then on > 28MHz. One can choose if they want to make XV144 with 28 or 14MHz IF, > depending on use (CW, SSB, FM). > > > > 73' Samir, sm7vzx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 13:13:07 -0700 > From: Mark Goldberg <marklgoldb...@gmail.com> > To: Michael Chowning <mike.chown...@mgccc.org> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation > Message-ID: > <CAKn+a3t=qvqA36nHc6EY6D1f3=txBOLXxJY_q_t=ahqjres...@mail.gmai > l.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Michael Chowning > <mike.chown...@mgccc.org> > wrote: > > > Being there is no better place to get advice than this reflector, I am > > seeking your recommendation. I have an Elecraft K3, P3, KAT500 & KPA500. > > > > I want to operate somewhat portable with the K3, P3, monitor and laptop, > > buddipole on SSB and digital modes on Field day, and demonstrations on > > outings to community events (like festivals, etc). My options, I?m > > considering are: > > > > 1) Honda 2000i gasoline generator > > 2) Yamaha EF2000iSV2 (with propane option) > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > I don't use generators for field day as we are in the woods and don't want > any noise. The inverter generators are quiet though. I have been threatened > that my RV generator will suffer from "Lead Poisoning" if it is run in the > woods. It is very loud. > > > > > 1) Deep Cell 12v 100amp battery (brand, model, control charger?) > > 2) Lipo battery (brand, model, control charger?) > > 2) appropriate solar power panels and controller charge for either of the > > above battery (brand, model, adapters?) > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > I use a solar system with deep cycle lead acid batteries, recently > installed in my RV, but it was standalone. A description with specific > models may be found on: > > https://sites.google.com/site/marksrvmods/ > > The RV has a large inverter for 115V. I previously used a large inverter > standalone. Both are Xantrex, a good brand. They make some RF hash, but > they are tamable with Ferrite cores. Some inverters are very noisy. > > 200W of solar panels and two 75 Amp Hour batteries will run a 100W ham > station for field day late into the night. I have 4 batteries and 400W of > solar panels to run the RV too. I am really keen on the flexible solar > panels I use. They are very light and efficient. They have gotten lots of > attention whenever I set them out. They may not be the best for a permanent > installation, but for quick setup and teardown they are ideal. > > Note that MPPT solar charge controllers are the most efficient but usually > make lots of RF hash. I use a Morningstar PWM controller that has a bang > bang option, that will either be on or off, no RF hash from switching. It > does reduce the actual output of the 400W panels to 300W though. > > Lipo batteries do not produce the right voltage for radios. 4 Cells is too > much, 3 cells is too little. LiFePO4 batteries do and they are safer. A 4 > cell pack runs from about 14.4 V down to 12 V at 90% discharge, which is > ideal for remote operation. They still take special charging, sometimes > built in to the batteries, but they are very expensive. > > I have a 20 Amp Hour from batteryspace,com that I use for long QRP, and I > have a separate special charger. They also have ones with built in charging > / balancing circuits, but they cost more. > > I have two small 4s1p LiFePO4 packs from buddyrc.com for remote QRP, but > they don't seem to sell them any more. > > bioennopower.com has lots of options with built in charging circuits that > make it a little easier and they get good reviews. I could not afford to > have the big boys be LiFePO4 though and have not bought from them. A few > hundred Amp Hours of LiFePO4 will be in the thousands of dollars. > > For all these batteries, it is a good idea to monitor them and stop using > them when they get down to about 12V. LifePO4 especially can be permanently > damaged if discharged too low. > > Good luck in whatever you choose. As you can see, there are many options > with no "best" option for all circumstances. > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 13:31:00 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> > To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Cc: "k...@yahoogroups.com" <k...@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Elecraft] Update on KXPD2 and KXPD3 paddles > Message-ID: <53e6d35c-05dc-4292-a3ce-20698842b...@elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I have to apologize for stating that there were mod kits available for the KXPD2 > and KXPD3 that reflect improvements we?ve made over time. Turns out that we > only upgrade existing units at the factory, so we can do complete testing before > returning them. > > For paddles under warranty that aren?t up to the current configuration, we?ll > add the upgrades on request, at no charge. > > For those out of warranty, we charge a flat $79 fee (plus shipping) to do the > upgrade. (We just reduced this from $95.) > > If you have an older KXPD3 you?d like to upgrade, please use the following link to > place the order: > > http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#kx3 > > For older KXPD2s there will be a similar process, but it is not in place yet. We?ll > announce it in a week or two. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:41:38 +0000 > From: "Yngvi (TF3Y)" <t...@tf3y.net> > To: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 > Message-ID: > <CADXHQtx3rUQAWsG1obfqvnwq6VsM7i0YD9OMJ3xBk8sMBdV7pg@mai > l.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Has anyone used a Bluetooth adapter for wireless headphones / headset with > the K3? > > Any recommendations or suggestions? > What you stay away from? > > 73, Yngvi TF3Y > -- > http://www.tf3y.net > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 28 > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 14:17:04 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Power for digital and Phone operation > Message-ID: > <90bcb35f-a5b8-06f8-a772-18ed26caf...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Mike, > > In addition to the response I wrote earlier and others you have > received, you should study the list archives. There have been many > thoughtful and detailed posts on this topic in the last six months. I've > made several myself. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On 9/1/2017 10:37 AM, Michael Chowning wrote: > > My questions: > > 1) Is it best to go with the generator option; and if so, which of the two > choices above? Any outstanding reason for this option, and choice of the two? > > 2) Is it best to go with the Battery, and solar option; why? Is there reason to > choose the Lipo over the Deep Cell batteries? I am concerned over the choices > about battery voltages and amp?s needed to operate as stated above. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 29 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 17:10:34 -0500 > From: GaryK9GS <garyk...@wi.rr.com> > To: "Yngvi (TF3Y)" <t...@tf3y.net>, "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" > <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 > Message-ID: <80.87.25924.CDAD9A95@dnvrco-omsmta02> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I would like this info too. > > > 73, > Gary K9GS > -------- Original message --------From: "Yngvi (TF3Y)" <t...@tf3y.net> Date: > 9/1/17 3:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] > Bluetooth audio adapter for K3 > Has anyone used a Bluetooth adapter for wireless headphones / headset with > the K3? > > Any recommendations or suggestions? > What you stay away from? > > 73, Yngvi TF3Y > -- > http://www.tf3y.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to garyk...@wi.rr.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 161, Issue 1 > **************************************** > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mike.flow...@gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
