I know that many people love controlling everything from a PC, but that is for me a don't-want, as I don't want the extra box to start up, and using a mouse and keyboard is much less convenient than knobs. Of course, using contesting software does involve the PC, but even in that situation I want my knobs. Controlling the rig from a PC repulses me even more so lately, since Microsoft is forcing software updates on us ever more frequently. Very disruptive. I do understand that increased vulnerabilities demand it, but then the vulnerabilities are caused by Microsoft itself, always adding functionality without concern for security (except for Microsoft job security). Some will say that Linux is the answer but I have been there, and I would prefer a special version of Windows that removes a lot of bells and whistles and doesn't need frequent updates. Has anyone investigated which ham software products work or don't work with Windows set to protected mode?
On the subject of panadapter features, I can see some utility in using a mouse, as pushing the P3 knob does indeed tend to move the whole box. However, unless there is software based automatic fine tuning, I find that mouse clicking on a signal usually requires fine adjustment with the tuning knob. The advantage of the mouse then is the ability to make large jumps without a lot of knob spinning. That need is sharply reduced by using the RIT knob as a coarse tuning knob. Perhaps the K4 packaging should place most of the P3 electronics as an optional plug-in board inside the radio, and place a slightly bigger display in a separate, P3-size box. The P3 controls would be on the radio. The existing controls for the second rx could be kept for those who can stomach them, but a new button on the radio would switch the P3 display to show all aspects of second rx settings, and allow adjustment. Another press of the new button, or a number of actions such as moving the main tuning knob, would go back to normal P3 display. 73, Erik K7TV -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Richard Thorne Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 4:31 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4? I was going to make the suggestion for a rig with out knobs. All of my current equipment is rack mounted. I operate with software and a mouse. Keeps the desk uncluttered and the monitor below eye level. The K3 Remote could be used if one wanted knobs. Rich - N5ZC On 5/19/2018 5:36 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > Me too. After I determined some years ago that my then-new K3 was > actually working, I gave my Yaesus away - both of them. I haven't missed > them since. My backups are now a pair of K2s at one QTH and a KX3/KXPA at > another. > > I suspect many though not all of the capability changes - as opposed to the > ergonomic changes - proposed in this thread could be implemented without > changing the box. If there were one additional item on my list it would be > having an internal keyer that would make external logging programs redundant. > And the NR system . . . > > Apart from that, and apart from my own ergonomic preferences, I am willing to > bet that whatever comes next isn't a bigger box but rather the other way > around. I have heard the K3/S described more than once as an SDR with knobs. > Maybe. But my bet would be , if there is a K4 or some such, it will be an > SDR without knobs. Any takers? > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 11:51:50 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 > Message-ID: > <4a95b31d-0210-d98b-20df-7cf649a4d...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > My experience is quite different. From the beginning (in 2008), I found > the user interface very well thought out. Maybe that's because I started > by RTFM.? Everything I need while operating is on the front panel. The > menus are organized so that they are almost never needed during > operation except to fix a setting that was wrong in the first place. I > can't remember the last time I needed to go into menus for anything but > setup with new outboard equipment. > > My K3s replaced a pair of FT1000MPs. Everything about the K3 performance > and user interface is far superior. AND the change freed up a LOT of > space on my operating desk! > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > rtho...@rthorne.net > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ebasil...@cox.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
