That's a good thought and provides instant isolation, but have some thought 
about the back emf off the coil - it could exceed the rating of the keying 
transistor.  I measured 800V on a very fast scope many years ago from a reed 
relay.  Just sticking a diode across the coil will slow it down a lot, so, 
some experimentation with zeners and resistors will get the situation 
optimised.  I once used a separate keying transistor and relay and found 
that a small cap from the base to the collector did the job quite well by 
slowing the off rise time, so the transistor absorbed a bit more power but 
gave good control.

73

David
G3UNA


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Wilhelm" <w3...@embarqmail.com>
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 external qro keying line


> Terry,
>
> For those who prefer not to touch the K3 with a soldering iron, an
> external 12 volt relay is a good solution.  Obtain the power from the
> K3  12VDC OUT jack and use KEYOUT  to key the relay.  It accomplishes
> the same thing and retains the ability to use QSK in the future without
> 'undoing' the internal relay.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> w...@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> I've seen numerous posts about the PTT output line on the K3 and using
>> older amps. Yaesu's, Kenwood's, Icom's all share the same issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unless you are running QSK and need instant keying, I would suggest
>> adding a small 12v relay inside the K3 that the solid state device
>> keys and presents the user with a set of dry, isolated contacts that
>> can handle positive, negative and up to 250v DC or AC. I have added
>> this to several K3's to protect the switching transistor from eventual
>> destruction. Once again, if you are using QSK, solid state due to it's
>> fast switching time is your only option.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, it means touching your K3 with a hot soldering iron, but it's a
>> "pay me now or pay me later" thing, sooner or later it will blow the
>> switch if you are hooking up older or HB amps that use other than low
>> current positive keying voltages.
>>
>>
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
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