On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 07:54:55PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> Dear Kalle,
> 
> I am only a Debian Elinks user, and occasionally contribute; Giridhar
> and Moritz Mühlenhoff should probably make the decisions, but here are
> my comments anyway.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:04:47PM +0300, Kalle Olavi Niemitalo wrote:
> > As reported at <http://bugzilla.elinks.cz/show_bug.cgi?id=1117>,
> > contrib/debian/elinks.desktop is in a pre-standard format that
> > triggers a warning from the mimeo program.  I could easily fix
> > that in the upstream elinks sources; however, Debian already has
> > an up-to-date elinks.desktop file that also includes translations
> > to a few languages.  To avoid needless forking, I'd like to copy
> > that version to the elinks-0.12 branch and later merge to master.
> 
> This sounds fair.
> 
> > Then, to keep authorship information, I think I should also copy
> > debian/changelog, and perhaps the rest of the debian directory.
> > According to <http://bugzilla.elinks.cz/show_bug.cgi?id=988>, the
> > Debian maintainer does not want us to have a debian/ directory in
> > the ELinks sources, so the files would go in contrib/debian/.
> > Does that seem reasonable to do?
> 
> This is primarily because the Debian packaging provided by upstreams
> is usually not compliant with the ideas and standards required or
> imposed by the Debian maintainers themselves. However, in case you are
> merely going to ship the currently up-to-date debian/ directory, I can
> see two ways where you can do so without hurting the Debian
> maintainers:
> 
> - Just ship the debian/ directory and don't make changes to it, or
>   make only those changes which the Debian maintainers would make
>   anyway, and/or
> - Become a co-maintainer of the Debian package.
> 
> If these aren't suitable to you (and the Debian maintainers), then an
> alternate solution would be necessary.
> 
> > Also, should I make the commit a merge (from
> > git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/elinks.git#debian/unstable),
> > or would that just complicate later Debian maintenance?
> 
> I don't see why a merge would complicate things, although Moritz and
> Giridhar can comment further on their paradigm on packaging.
> 
> > I suppose another solution would be to move elinks.desktop out of
> > contrib/debian/ and update AUTHORS accordingly.  It does look a
> > bit odd that the Arch Linux build script reads a file from a
> > Debian-specific directory.
> 
> This is a possible solution, but this does seem like unnecessary
> duplication. From my perspective, if you maintain the debian directory
> in a way where the debian maintainers can pull it in and use it with
> overlaid changes, I don't see the need to move it out of the
> way. Moritz, Giridhar: please correct me if I am wrong.

Hi,
I'm currently short of time, so just a quick comments:

- The current source format properly supports having the
debian dir in the main tree, so there's no need to
move it to contrib: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0

- Personally I would be happy to move elinks to a larger
maintenance group, so if this is fine with Giridhar we'd
be happy to sync the debian dir with upstream git.

- Likewise if you, Kumar, wants to join for maintenance that
would be welcome as well.

Cheers,
        Moritz
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