Hi John, I am not familiar with GOST and I don't doubt there are people on this forum better informed to address your query. What I do know is that CE is not required outside the scope of the EU membership. At present, AFAIK, the EU member states are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and UK. My information may be a little outdated.
A country outside the scope of the EU may choose to take advantage of the product quality inherent in the process that leads to the mark by insisting on CE-marked imports, but really, the mark only has legal implications within the EU. I am not sure about the Russian market, and perhaps some of our Russian based compliance engineers may help here. Alternatively, the persons importing the product would be able to advise. Regards - Chris Chileshe -----Original Message----- From: Bouse, John [SMTP:john.bo...@perkinelmer.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:23 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: CE Mark and GOST Hello Group, Is the CE Mark sufficient to allow products (laboratory instruments, for example) to be sold/shipped into the Russian Federation, or is the GOST mark also required? Regards, John Bouse PKI Shelton, CT USA =================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Chris Chileshe [mailto:chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk] Sent: September 13, 2001 12:38 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark Hi Ralph, The CE mark is not exclusive to EMC. Indeed, it refers to compliance with all directives relevant to the product, so a teddy bear will be CE marked if it meets the requirements of the toy directive and all relevant safety directives. Pressure vessels will have to meet the requirements of the pressure directive and so on, and if any product crosses boundaries, it has to meet all the applicable directives. However, the CE mark is a declaration of conformity and you can self certify. This means I can disappear into my garage for a few weeks and emerge with a CE marked product - and it would be perfectly legal - as long as the declaration is true i.e. I have done what needs to be done to prove compliance, and one way to do this would be to test to applicable harmonised standards. Validity of self certification may change in due course but at the moment, that is how it is. I like Chris Maxwell's spin on the meaning of CE, and it would be true if every firm made a distinction between the compliance engineer and the designer. In all the companies I have worked for - we do it all i.e. the designer designs to spec, takes the product through type approval tests, then through precompliance and then through full compliance. So the electronics designers are responsible for meeting all the applicable directives (EMC, electrical safety) and functional type approval and they do so by product proving and EMC testing the product themselves - to the applicable standard. They are also responsible for the technical documentation for the electrical aspects of the product. The mechanical engineers and hydraulics engineers do likewise and when it's all done, the fall guy (engineering director) puts his signature on the declaration of conformity. What this means is that if the declaration should subsequently be proven false, he is the one who goes to the gallows. Wait a minute! I used to think everyone worked that way, but I get the feeling I may be doing too much! That does it! I am off to see the payroll people soon after sending this e-mail and hopefully will emerge with a CE marked cheque - or CE marked letter of dismissal!! You can never be too sure with these accounts people. Regards y'all - Chris Chileshe -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Cameron [SMTP:ral...@igs.net] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:57 PM To: Chris Chileshe; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE Mark I think its fair to state that CE also equates to designed in level of immunity to electromagnetic interference, i.e. reduced sensitivity or susceptibility. In my view , a highly desireable because it prevents a lot of what's out there from coming in and conversely a lot of what's inside from coming out. It's a compromise but better than nothing. Ralph cameron EMC Consulting and Suppression of Consumer Electronics (after sale) << snip >> _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. 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