Yes, as now system "system" is a multi-function apparatus it should comply with all applicable standards
It should comply to EN 55012 (not CISPR12) and EN 301-489-1 or other subpart of this series. Note that the 301489-1 does not support Class A devices. This is especially troublesome for IT devices, as Class A of EN 55022 is still very popular . As soon as a wireless BT WiFi device is added, EN 301 489-1 comes into view. And since everything goes wireless... Gert Gremmen From: Paasche, Dieter [mailto:dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com] Sent: Wednesday 28 June 2017 23:06 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RED Harmonised Standards If I insert a radio module into a system that is compliant to the RED and to the latest 301 489 series, do I have to re-test the whole system towards the 301 489 series? The system already complies with other regular EMC standards (CISPR 12) without the module. Sincerely, Dieter Paasche Senior Product Developer, Electrical CHRISTIE 809 Wellington Street North Kitchener, ON N2G 4Y7 Phone: 519-744-8005 ext.7211 www.christiedigital.com <http://www.christiedigital.com/> This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is confidential. Any unauthorized use, distribution or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail or telephone and delete it and any attachments from your computer system and records. From: Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 2:59 PM To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: [PSES] RED Harmonised Standards As far as I understand: Use EMCD HS for EM aspects art 3.1 (No NB needed) ; that includes the 301 489 series for EMC of auxiliary equipment (intentionally left out of RED should never have been on the RTTE list either as it was EMC) Use LVD HS for electrical safety also art 3.1 (No NB Needed) Use RED HS for radio Art 3.2 (No NB needed) (radio properties / spurious emissions: those are not EMI, but strictly harmonics and mixer products) This ends the confusion there always was on EMC standards and LVD standards in the RTTE list, >From the beginning one was supposed to use 3 directives for Radio products There are still missing red standards, notably those for (GPS) Receivers, here a NB is needed, but as there is no standard available, what will the NB have to impose ? Gert Gremmen Van: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Verzonden: woensdag 28 juni 2017 20:04 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] RED Harmonised Standards I think they've been putting all their effort into getting the Article 3.2 standards onto the OJ as soon as they can (because those are the ones which the manufacturer needs, to self declare without a Notified Body). Most of the EN 301 489 standards are published or at least in a final draft; so the manufacturer can use them and explain it in their risk assessment. It may not be on the RED OJ, but that does not mandate the use of a Notified Body. Michael. From: Paasche, Dieter [mailto:dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com] Sent: 28 June 2017 16:22 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RED Harmonised Standards Interesting. One additional question is I don't see any of the 301 489 series. Is this going to be published in the RED harmonized standards list, as it is strictly speaking and EMC requirement, or is this part of the article 3.1 b requirement:" an adequate level of electromagnetic compatibility as set out in Directive 2014/30/EU.?" The EMC directive only lists 301 489-1 and 301 489-34. Sincerely, Dieter Paasche Senior Product Developer, Electrical CHRISTIE 809 Wellington Street North Kitchener, ON N2G 4Y7 Phone: 519-744-8005 ext.7211 www.christiedigital.com <http://www.christiedigital.com/> This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is confidential. Any unauthorized use, distribution or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail or telephone and delete it and any attachments from your computer system and records. 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