John, John Prentice wrote: > Greetings Steve et al > > Congrats. on election result (to you and others of course) > > >>I'd say that flash, although it's more or less fine for media, has no >>place in the requirements list for EMC2 :) There are any number of fine >>programming languages and environments to use for the UI. I'm not sure >>what you'd use to make a flash presentation on Linux anyway, and I >>wouldn't want to be beholden to Adobe to make updated versions for my OS >>(which they don't - I use a 64-bit version of Linux, and they don't seem >>to like supporting 64-bit OSes on anything but PowerPC macs AFAICS). > > > No, I accept the current problem in a Linux environment but things do change > surprisingly quickly sometimes. Flash player penetration is very high in the > "parallel universe". Reliance on Adobe or any one vendor is unhappy but > Sothink and SWiSHMax both offer very capable development environments. > >
I don't even have Flash installed and see no need for it to control a machine. >>On >>a technical level, I'm not sure what facilities Flash has for actually >>doing things that aren't "media" or web-related anyway. > > > It is not the time/place to be dogmatic as I cannot show a demonstration, > but there *are* two aspects I think Flash offers (a) A framework for design > of very interactive graphic interfaces (e.g. the label for an Axis DRO that > opens up to show scaling, offsets applied etc. when it is clicked) > integrated with (b) A powerful and well structured script programming > language. > > The difficulty in applying Flash is that the documentation/tutorial material > is highly orientated to the web design aspects and the terminology is thus > "foreign". The ability to instantiate graphics objects, which can be > "movies", as buttons, text, DROs, etc. with overideable inherited > properties is, however, a very powerful tool. > > On a more general point, we have come to accept heirarchical dialog systems > as the norm. So many application program dialogs are "modal" and we while > away our lives clicking OK/Done etc. When I started using Solidworks and > Pro/ENGINEER I was blown away by the benefits of the implied OK in > Solidworks. As an example, you place a dimension and a panel comes up for > entering its properties. This panel has an OK and a Cancel button but if you > just click on the sketch then OK is assumed and you can place another > dimension. This works wherever there is a reasonable assumption. Where the > implication is "risky" you need a positive confirmation of OK. Pro/E on the > other had pendantically wants confirmation at every step (and in Wildfire 2 > at least different modules ask for it in different ways and on different > parts of the screen). > I would get very upset if I had to keep confirming what I just told the application what I wanted, I think once is enough. To place a dimension should be pick the feature and pick whhere to place the dimensiion for that feature. No confirmation is needed, if it doesn't get applied the way I wanted it there's always a way to undo it and try again. > The available computing power seems to offer scope for increased safety and > ease of use in HMIs provided the development tools are available. > </mini-rant> > > John Prentice > > Saftey? I do not need or want any protection from myself, I command the computer and i expect it to do as I request without continually being asked if it is OK! KISS, Dale > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
