Thanks Gene,

I'm not sure that, bug is completely relevant to my issue.  As my Mb2hal config 
never used serial/by-id.  It has always used  /dev/ttyUSB0 to address the RS485 
device.  Maybe serial by id might be a better way to address the specific 
serial port used, but I am not even sure if it is even be supported by Mb2hal 
or exactly how to set it up that way (none of the example Mb2hal configurations 
use it.)  And even if it were possible, I'm not sure if I still would have had 
the permission problems and I would have also had to fix the udev bug first.  
Changing the permission is all I needed to do to get this working as it was 
before.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-----Original Message-----
From: gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
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On 5/8/24 08:13, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:
> No, they are not.  The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04.  (Because that was 
> the last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it's ISA IO 
> card.) The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian 
> net install iso).
>
> The groups the user belongs to  on the PC are "adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, 
> lpadmin, admin, and sambashare".  The groups for the new PC are "cdrom, 
> floppy, sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and scanner"
>
> So, I'm not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that "dialout" might be 
> the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I'm not sure if "dip" 
> might be an equivalent replacement for that.
>
Your debian 12 install has the udev bug I sent you a link to the fix already.  
It restores the missing two lines that setup the serial/by-id stuff for usb.

> Todd Zuercher
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> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
> wrote:
> It was already set to 3.
>
> What is your MB2HAL load line?
> What does lsusb call  the dongle?
>
> Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?
>
> --
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