dear Yannis and Helene, dear all,  

i believe the critique, offered very modestly by last month's discussion 
moderators, concerns us all, and is addressed to the those who make  or partake 
or belong to such a soft_skinned community or, to use a less optimistic term, 
'space', -and perhaps the critique needs to be discussed, unless others feel 
there is no need to.  I very much agree with Iannis,  that "a lot of 
translation has to happen behind the stage screen,"  but man of these 
translations, or the work involved,  might get lost, and so the assumption of 
sharing perhaps also?

with regards
Johannes Birringer

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>>   Iannis Zannos schreibt

your "summary review of the project" post is formulated with a sensitivity and 
thoughtfulness which touches some deep strings at least for me. I particularly 
appreciate your empathy with the "non-western academic" situation, to which I 
belong at least partly. I wish to confirm that I felt exactly that while trying 
to participate in the discussion. It is difficult to adapt to the highly 
specialised tone, it feels like entering a world (to avoid using the word 
'discourse') that one does not entirely belong to. A lot of translation has to 
happen behind the stage screen. It is partly stimulating, partly disorienting. 
But your post actually reinstates the meaningfulness and value of the 
undertaking, by exposing that situation behind the stage, and thus indirectly 
affirming that we do have things to share in these issues.  
>>


>>>   Renate schreibt

Yiannis and Helene while you may not have heard directly from many of our 
subscribers in the most distant places of the world,
I know verifiably that many lurk, reading the conversations from day to day 
without actively participating.  The task of reading long, and detailed posts 
multiple times a day is sometimes a daunting task. The ebb and flow of empyre 
discussions are rhythmical.
I am an optimist and I can say whole-heartedly that Tim and I try to actively 
engage a diverse group of participants, discussants and subscribers.  Our base 
continues to grow. Ten years worth of archives are available online to anyone at
http://lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au/pipermail/empyre/
One of the things that I have been committed to is to engage more non-academic 
artists to participate in our discussions.  I would like to encourage our 
guests not to copy long posts of pre-published scholarly writing and instead 
use a more conversational style that encourages an informal, inclusive style of 
discourse.


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