To quote from a short conversation I had with Allen Wirfs-Brock: “Proxies have a similar issue WRT the "internal slots" of built-ins. The alternatives were the non-othogonality with Proxy or private fields whose privacy was insecure. TC39 choose (correctly, I think) in favor of secure field privacy. The lesser evil choice.”
With that being said workarounds have already been presented: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-class-fields/issues/106#issuecomment-397484713 https://javascript.info/proxy#private-fields From: es-discuss <es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org> On Behalf Of Michael Theriot Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 5:10 PM To: kai zhu <kaizhu...@gmail.com> Cc: es-discuss@mozilla.org Subject: Re: Why does a JavaScript class getter for a private field fail using a Proxy? I assume OP wants to use proxies and private members together. They are not designed to be compatible. Proxies and private members are a UX goal primarily for developers. Proxies easily allow observation of another object or creation of exotic objects (e.g. Array), and private members (safely) allow classes with internal slots. Since they cannot be used together the issue exists, and the hack circumvents this by reimplementing private in a way that does not require private fields. On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 4:45 PM kai zhu <kaizhu...@gmail.com<mailto:kaizhu...@gmail.com>> wrote: as product-developer, can i ask what ux-objective you ultimately want achieved? ```js const sub = new Sub() // i'm a noob on proxies. what is this thing (with proxied-private-fields) ultimately used for? const proxy = new Proxy(sub, ...) ``` On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 4:34 PM Michael Theriot <michael.lee.ther...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.lee.ther...@gmail.com>> wrote: This does require you to have both the key and the weakmap though, so it actually does succeed in hiding the data so long as the weakmap is out of scope. I guess the issue I can foresee is that the key could be modified after the object is created. e.g. ```js var a = new A(); var key = Object.getOwnPropertySymbols(a)[0]; delete a[key]; a.hidden; // throws ``` That itself can be guarded by just making the key undeletable. So, I guess this solution could work depending what your goals are? On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 4:21 PM Michael Theriot <michael.lee.ther...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.lee.ther...@gmail.com>> wrote: It nearly works, but the issue is that the key will be leaked by `Object.getOwnPropertySymbols(new A())`, so it's not truly private. There have been ideas proposing "private symbols" but I am not familiar with their issues, and I would guess with Class Fields they are unlikely to materialize anyway. On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 2:19 PM François REMY <francois.remy....@outlook.com<mailto:francois.remy....@outlook.com>> wrote: At the risk of pointing out the obvious: ```js const privkey = Symbol(); const stores = new WeakMap(); class A { [privkey] = {}; constructor() { const priv = {}; priv.hidden = Math.random(); stores.set(this[privkey], priv); } get hidden() { const priv = stores.get(this[privkey]); return priv.hidden; } } var as = [ new A(), new Proxy(new A(),{}), new Proxy(new A(),{}), ]; console.log(as.map(a=>a.hidden)); ``` From: Michael Theriot<mailto:michael.lee.ther...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 20:59 To: Michael Haufe<mailto:t...@thenewobjective.com> Cc: es-discuss@mozilla.org<mailto:es-discuss@mozilla.org> Subject: Re: Why does a JavaScript class getter for a private field fail using a Proxy? I experienced this issue prior to this proposal, using weakmaps for private access. e.g. ```js const stores = new WeakMap(); class A { constructor() { const priv = {}; priv.hidden = 0; stores.set(this, priv); } get hidden() { const priv = stores.get(this); return priv.hidden; } } const a = new A(); console.log(a.hidden); // 0 const p = new Proxy(a, {}); console.log(p.hidden); // throws! ``` I found a workaround: ```js const stores = new WeakMap(); class A { constructor() { const priv = {}; priv.hidden = 0; stores.set(this, priv); const p = new Proxy(this, {}); stores.set(p, priv); // set proxy to map to the same private store return p; } get hidden() { const priv = stores.get(this); // the original instance and proxy both map to the same private store now return priv.hidden; } } const a = new A(); console.log(a.hidden); ``` Not ideal, and only works if you provide the proxy in the first place (e.g. making exotic JS objects). But, not necessarily a new issue with proxies, either. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:29 AM Michael Haufe <t...@thenewobjective.com<mailto:t...@thenewobjective.com>> wrote: This is a known issue and very painful for me as well. You can see a long ugly discussion here: <https://github.com/tc39/proposal-class-fields/issues/106> I suggest the following guide to assist you: <https://javascript.info/proxy#proxy-limitations> Another possible approach is to have your classes extend a proxy: < > From: es-discuss <es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org<mailto:es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org>> On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:21 AM To: es-discuss@mozilla.org<mailto:es-discuss@mozilla.org> Subject: Why does a JavaScript class getter for a private field fail using a Proxy? I can expose private class fields in JavaScript using getters, and those getters work correctly when invoked on instances of a subclass. However, if I then wrap the instance with a proxy the getter will throw a type error, even if the proxy `get` hook uses `Reflect.get()`: ``` class Base { _attrA #_attrB constructor() { this._attrA = 100 this.#_attrB = 200 } get A() { return this._attrA } get B() { return this.#_attrB } incrA() { this._attrA++ } incrB() { this.#_attrB++ } } class Sub extends Base {} const sub = new Sub() const proxy = new Proxy(sub, { get(target, prop, receiver) { const value = Reflect.get(target, prop, receiver) return typeof value === 'function' ? value.bind(target) : value // (1) } }) console.log('sub.A', sub.A) // OK: -> 100 console.log('sub.B', sub.B) // OK: -> 200 sub.incrA() // OK sub.incrB() // OK console.log('sub.A', sub.A) // OK: -> 101 console.log('sub.B', sub.B) // OK: -> 201 console.log('proxy.A', proxy.A) // OK: -> 100 console.log('proxy.B', proxy.B) // TypeError: Cannot read private member #_attrB from an object whose class did not declare it proxy.incrA() // OK proxy.incrB() // OK due to (1) console.log('proxy.A', proxy.A) // OK: -> 100 console.log('proxy.B', proxy.B) // TypeError: Cannot read private member #_attrB from an object whose class did not declare it ``` The call to `proxy.incrB()` works, because the proxy handler explicitly binds function values to `target` on line (1). Without the `bind()` call, the `proxy.incrB()` invocation would throw a `TypeError` like the getter invocation does. That makes some sense: the result of the call to `Reflect.get()` is the 'unbound' function value of the property being retrieved, which must then be bound to `target`; it would make more sense, though, if `this` binding was applied by the [[Call]] operation on the result of the [[Get]] operation... But there is no opportunity to 'bind' a getter before invoking it; as a result, a proxied getter ends up receiving the wrong `this` binding, leading to the inconsistency. Is there any way to make this work correctly? The only approach I can think of (which I haven't tried) would be to have the `get` hook walk up the prototype chain, starting from `target`, calling `getOwnPropertyDescriptor()` and checking for a getter method, and explicitly applying the getter with an adjusted `this` binding. That sounds ludicrously cumbersome and brittle... Is there a better way to get this working correctly? -- Laurie _______________________________________________ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss@mozilla.org<mailto:es-discuss@mozilla.org> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss _______________________________________________ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss@mozilla.org<mailto:es-discuss@mozilla.org> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss
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