On 2008-12-17 17:49, Michael Foord wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 2008-12-17 15:21, Michael Foord wrote:
>>> It is not making exceptions that provide the benefit... PyCon US at
>>> least feels that there is no reason to accept a public talk where the
>>> speaker refuses to allow it to be made public...
>>
>> There's a difference between allowing someone else to publish your
>> talk or go public with it yourself.
>>
>> There's also a difference in giving a talk to a live audience which
>> is over when its over or having your performance persist on the net
>> until eternity.
>>
>>
>
> I agree.
>
>> I'm -1 on rejecting talks from people who want to keep control
>> over how they go live on the net or if at all.
>>
>>
>
> The question is whether allowing people who are unwilling to let us
> publish a recording is worth the hassle it causes - and I'm -1 on
> allowing it as I see no benefit.
>
> As a side benefit, I think this is more likely to persuade people to be
> willing for recordings to be published than it is to dissuade people to
> give talks. This is certainly the experience of PyCon US.
That's the US way of persuading people. I hope it doesn't
become the European way.
It's easy enough to have a checkbox on the registration which says:
"""
[ ] I agree to have my presentation published on the net by the
EuroPython organizers.
Please note that for organizational reasons, the organizers may
still record the presentation, even if you decide against giving
authorization to publish the recording. The organizers will
only publish presentations from speakers/attendees who have given
their express permission to publish their works.
"""
It's easy enough to just skip talks while editing them based
on a list of speakers who have granted permission.
For lightning talks and other adhoc presentations, I'd be +1 on
requiring implicit permission from all speakers.
>>> They have no prevision
>>> for exceptions and therefore no need to check when preparing recordings
>>> for release.
>>>
>>
>> I think that's a wrong approach.
>>
>> Besides: Recording and editing sessions is a lot of work and that work
>> is better spent on more useful activities, such as e.g. getting a
>> complete list of talk *slides* on the net.
>
> There is benefit in both.
Sure, there's always a benefit in being able to access presentations
after they have been given. However, in the past, not even the slides
were made available by all speakers. IMHO, tt would be far better to
at least get all those together on the website, rather than discussing
the next steps.
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