Il giorno 18/gen/2012, alle ore 00:06, Ali Afshar ha scritto: > On 17 January 2012 18:52, Giovanni Bajo <[email protected]> wrote: >> [ Moving to europython-improve@ ] >> >> On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 21:45 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > >>> I haven't heard of any proposal either - I guess the size of the >>> conference is starting to frighten people who would otherwise not >>> have a problem with organizing it. >> >> My own humble opinion is that it will get harder and harder to move >> EuroPython around Europe as time goes by. A conference of this size >> can't be improvised, and I'm truly skeptical that at this point someone >> from another country can learn how to do it just by joining a few >> activities online. > > I'm not sure this argument holds. How did Florence learn to do it?
We did 4 PyCon Italy conferences before EuroPython; last PyCon Italy was 380 ppl and last EP UK was 450. Without having built up the experience with PyCon Italy, it would have been absolutely impossible to handle the whole event the way we did. > And Birmingham before that, The previous years the conference was smaller. You can probably do something in the 200 ppl range as first attempt (and yes, many many things will go wrong, but people are mostly forgiving about technical details of running a conference), but we're now aiming at 700 ppl in 2012. If the conference stays in Florence for eg another year, it's easy that it will be over 1000 when it leaves. I might be wrong, but I think that the PyCon US model works better because there is an ongoing effort from a group of people (that you could identify with the PSF itself), which is then supported by a local team which gets guidance. That's not how EuroPython works; in EuroPython, the local team does everything, and is a different legal entity. There are also privacy/anonymity issues. Eg: we were handed the PyCon UK budget as a reference to get an idea of how the numbers were working in EP compared to PyCon Italy, and the budget was anonymized. I fully understand the reasons behind it and we will probably have to do the same in the future, but I think it shows that the model is totally different from that of PyCon US. In PyCon Italy, we also do a lot of work offline (= discuss in person or on the phone, in Italian). That doesn't help either for newcomers, but at the same time it is tremendously more efficient than having to write emails to people you can just talk to, in your native language, and this means a far better usage of volunteer time (PyCon US doesn't have a language barrier issue when moving around the states). While organizing the first PyCon Italy conference, we discussed everything by email; the year after, we only discussed things that we wanted to change (= diffs). And so on. EP2011 has been our fifth conference, so there is an incredible amount of things that we simply don't discuss anymore, since we already know how to do them and the way we like it. -- Giovanni Bajo :: [email protected] Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it
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