I know little of the Church fathers am not sure of Paul of Tarsus (Tent maker for the Roman legions) was a Rabbi. But,He was for you guys, nevertheless, on his road to Tarsus! I did learn this year that most of the bishops were the sons of Roman senators who still inherited the manors after the Sack of Rome in 476 AD., It really expanded the Church origins for me. They made the structure of The Church identical to the fallen empire. For me it explained a lot of Europe's history, its religion, its class system, and so forth. Not to mention the Eastern Empire which continued for 9 centuries before it got absorbed into Islam. 1453 AD. How the Fall of Constantinople in 1453 Changed History Forever (thehistoryace.com) If the vast, amount of scientific research is conducted by Pagans-Atheists-Agnostics, and they generate the preponderance of the measurable data with, (repeatable experiments) what are you going to do? I suppose we shall wait for The Book of Revelations to finally play out, and The Hero to return to the stage to judge the living and the dead? Do you think the new heaven and the new earth will be from this? Dyson spheres: The key to resurrection and immortality? - Big Think (Be warned, Pagan!)
To me, it sort of even looks like a Christmas Ornament, or a 70's disco ball. if one prefers? Remember the bumper sticker, WWJD? Promoting the idea of Jesus as a moral guide on human relations. (What Would Jesus Do?). I always thought it would be better in a theological fashion to change it to HWJSI, How Would Jesus Do It? The mechanics, the physics, the mechanism. It makes (for most I suspect) Word, Flesh. It makes it more real. Or at least less vague, less hand waving. This is why I am such big Frank Tipler fan, (Christian) and also a fan of roboticist, Hans Moravec. (Atheist). More recently, with Guilio Prisco (atheist and retired physicist). There are others, many of whom are simply writers on the topic. So, if you blame me for anything, it's cherry-picking scholars. I could throw in Lee Smolin, sort of, but I'll see if this email passes you by, or it garners a response. I do like the Dyson Spere thing (new heaven + earth). Plenty of physical room for lots of people, either as physical humans or as restored computer proggies? The Dyson Sphere is closer to Moravec's conception where "simulators" possibly made from super dense neutron star material (Moravec wrote) would Rez the dead. Tipler's Singularity is more profound emotionally, but a fantastically longer wait! Astronomers, using microwave receivers aimed at neutron stars have noted pasta patterns of crushed neutron star material. I wondered if somehow this could be analogous to the human brain? Are Neutron stars conscious? Blah Blah Blah...? Cosmic chocolate pralines? General neutron star structure revealed (phys.org) Happy New Year to All!Cosmologically speaking that is. -----Original Message----- From: Philip Benjamin <medinucl...@hotmail.com> To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2022 10:54 am Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A paranormal prediction for the next year <!--#yiv5847163926 filtered {}#yiv5847163926 filtered {}#yiv5847163926 p.yiv5847163926MsoNormal, #yiv5847163926 li.yiv5847163926MsoNormal, #yiv5847163926 div.yiv5847163926MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv5847163926 a:link, #yiv5847163926 span.yiv5847163926MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5847163926 span.yiv5847163926EmailStyle21 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv5847163926 .yiv5847163926MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv5847163926 filtered {}#yiv5847163926 div.yiv5847163926WordSection1 {}-->general_the...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A paranormal prediction for the next year [Philip Benjamin] I remember a high elected member of the federal government who was very conservative with respect to classical norms and mores abruptly endorsing alternate lifestyle correct and normal when a close relative came out of the closet. The question here is, what makes modern paganism ( ancient heathenism) different from a rebirth or regeneration life and consequent culture or ethos. Physical BIRTH for a person is ONLY once. So also, REBIRTH is ONLY once by regeneration. Augustinian transformation is an example. Myriads of others can be cited—Abraham, Moses, Rabbi Saul of Tarsus etc. A transformation is reformation, but all reformations but not vice versa. That is a historical and historic difference with distinction. WAMP the-Ingrate knows not!! Philip Benjamin From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online <general_the...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 3:47 PM To: general_the...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A paranormal prediction for the next year Dear Philip , What a wonderfully useful link https://www.richardcassaro.com/prince-charles-publicly-reveals-the-secret-doctrine-of-the-occult/ 2016. Thank you Being interested in the occult is not satanism Lewis Carroll had a large library of occult books https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TmtPoxzoXo Abraham Lincoln - Abraham Lincoln was clearly open to spiritual communication and the reason I say this is because he used the services of a medium called Nettie Colburn. Most of what Nettie achieved under trance conditions for him, could only have been achieved by there being very strong inter composer communication between the two of them. Furthermore both Abraham Lincoln and his wife were believers in the spiritual world and the power of mediums. https://allaboutheaven.org/sources/lincoln-abraham/151/main -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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