On 29-04-2023 22:39, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 4:28 PM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:

https://nyti.ms/3VlIBDo#permid=124757243 [1]

You say that GPT4 doesn't understand what it is saying, but did you
read my post about what happened when Scott Aaronson gave his final
exam on Quantum Computers to GPT4? The computer sure acted as if it
understood what it was saying!

John K Clark

If I read his account of the xam on posted here:

https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7209

Then while I'm impressed about how much progress has been made with AI systems being able to communicate in plain language, I don't see much evidence that it understands anything at all. Even though the exact same questions with answers are not posted on the Internet, a student with poor knowledge of the subject who could very fast search the entire Internet would be able to score a similar result and you would then see a similar patters in ha questions it got right and wrong.

The way we evaluate students who we suspect of have cheated, is to invite them at the office for some questioning, We then ask the student to do some problems on the blackboard and try to get to the bottom of whether or not the student has a proper understanding of the subject consistent with the exam score.

That's why I think that the only proper way to evaluate GPT is via such a dialogue where you ask follow up questions that go to the hart of the matter.

If we want to test of GPT has properly mastered contour integration, I would first start with asking to give me the derivation of the integral of sin(x)/x dx from minus to plus infinity. It will probably blurt out the standard derivation that involves integrating exp(i z)/z that bypasses the origin along a small circle of radius epsilon and you then have to subtract that contribution of that half circle and take the limit of epsilon to zero.

This is the standard textbook derivation which is actually quite a bit more complicated with all this fiddling with epsilon than a different derivation which is not widely published. All you need to do is right at th start when you write the integral as the limit of R to infinity of the integral from minus to plus R of sin(x)/x dx, to ud]se Cauchy's theorem to change to integration path from along the real axis to one which bypasses the origin You can do that in any arbitrary way, we can let the contour pass it from above. But because sin(z) for complex z cannot be written as the imaginary part of exp(i z), we must now use that sin(z) = [exp(i z) - exp(- i z)]/(2 i). And we then split the integral into two parts for each of these terms. The integral, from the first term is then completed by an arc of radius R in the upper half-plane and this integral yields zero, while the integral for the second term is completed in the lower half-plane and this then picks up the contribution from the pole at zero.

Clearly this is a much simpler way of computing the integral, no fiddling with epsilon involved at all but GPT may struggle doing the problem in that much simpler way even if you walk it through most of the details of how to do it, because it's not widely published and it doesn't understand anything at all about complex analysis at all.

Saibal

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