Well, Observer Moments go back, at least, to Schrödinger & Wigner, if not to
Boltzmann. There may be, I speculate because I am a Quantum Woo kind of guy,
something baked-in to the Universe, that triggers things.
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 07:40:35 PM EDT, Dylan Distasio
<interz...@gmail.com> wrote:
I love Aaronson. I also don't see him as a signatory on that letter. I was
commenting on the authors whining and winging about IIT in a publication versus
just getting on with the science and publishing evidence for their theories of
consciousness instead of crying about "scientific misinformation" and
"protecting the public" because IIT got mentioned in Nature and the popular
press. Let the science speak for itself by publishing actual papers.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 4:10 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott Aaronson is far from "a bunch of highschoolers".
Why I Am Not An Integrated Information Theorist (or, The Unconscious Expander)
Recently, lots of people have been asking me what I think about IIT—no, not
the Indian Institutes of Technology, but Integrated Information Theory, a
widely-discussed “mathematical theory of consciousness” developed over the past
decade by the neuroscientist Giulio Tononi. One of the askers was Max Tegmark,
who’s enthusiastically adopted IIT as a plank in his radical mathematizing
platform (see his paper “Consciousness as a State of Matter”). When, in the
comment thread about Max’s Mathematical Universe Hypothesis, I expressed doubts
about IIT, Max challenged me to back up my doubts with a quantitative
calculation.
So, this is the post that I promised to Max and all the others, about why I
don’t believe IIT. And yes, it will contain that quantitative calculation.
Read the rest at:
https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=1799
Brent
On 9/21/2023 11:42 AM, Dylan Distasio wrote:
Having read that letter, I don't find it very becoming of the scientists
writing it who should know better. Regardless of what you think about IIT and
its merits or lack thereof, it results in some predictions that can be tested,
and while some of the work is certainly hard to carry out, it provides a
framework for future experiments.
The letter sounds to me like it was written by a bunch of high schoolers who
are butthurt that their pet theories of consciousness are not the leading one
in the press. To label it pseudoscience arbitrarily is a bridge too far and
does not reflect well on the signees.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:08 PM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"
John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
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