On 07 Aug 2009, at 10:09, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
> > Hi, > > 2009/8/7 Torgny Tholerus <tor...@dsv.su.se>: >> >> Bruno Marchal skrev: >>> >>> Then it is not "RITSIAR" in the sense of the discussion with David. >>> Real in the sense that "I" am real. is ambiguous. >>> Either the "I" refers to my first person, and then I have >>> ontological >>> certainty. >>> As I said on FOR, I can conceive that I wake up and realize that >>> quark, planet, galaxies and even my body were not real. I cannot >>> conceive that I wake up and realize that my consciousness is not >>> real. >>> >> >> When I woke up this morning, I realized that my consciousness was not >> real... > > Like before... If you are a zombie, the sentence above has no > meaning... (there exists no 'I') and if you're not, either you're > deluded or you 're lying ;) Or you have a good sense of humor. The idea of a dreaming zombie, waking up to realize that he was dreaming being conscious, is rather funny. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
