On 20 Dec 2012, at 18:41, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
There is a gray area called "quality of life".
OK. Nice. Should I take this as a statement that there are some cases
where you would not oppose to euthanasia?
Everything of value, all colors, are in that gray area, I think.
Bruno
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/20/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Time: 2012-12-20, 05:12:10
Subject: Re: The pro-life paradox
On 19 Dec 2012, at 17:01, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:49, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
I define good as that which enhances life and evil
as that which diminishes it.
Is pro-life activism enhancing life or diminishing life?
Some pro-life doctor are against euthanasia, even passive
euthanasia, with the result that they transform dying patient into
machines. But most of them are naive believer, and as such, they
disbelieve comp, and so their pro-life activity begins to be
contradictory.
The question is: does an artificial, or even virtual body, enhance
life or suppress life?
Bruno
That's tricky.
The aristotelean pro-life doctor does not believe she/he is turning
the dying patient into a machine. That Doctor thinks they are
saving the universe from one of its fundamental properties: death,
entropy. I don't know if most of them are "naive believer" in the
sense that most doctors in this domain are well aware that it is a
loosing battle, and I guess "outing" yourself as "pro-euthanasia"
carries some heavy implications in your day to day practice,
interaction, and judgement from peers, directors, and employers. I
guess, most would be "cooler" with this if they could. So "naive
believer", yeah maybe some, but more I'd guess live in fear of
getting their voice heard.
To tackle the question straight-on:
1) depends on manufacturer, market, price and warranty conditions,
and the local universe. You did remember to submit the appropriate
forms before rental of "Bruno", didn't you? I say this, because it
seems like sometimes you forget with this kind of question :)
I am not sure I get the point. Mine was only that the pro-life
doctor will transform people into machine (as they do already
somehow), and that can contradict the general anti-mechanist
prejudice of many pro-life activists.
2) Heidegger was just joking. Nobody was "thrown"; he just got a
bit of nausea after signing all the soul-body binding contracts and
wants modification of warranty terms. I don't know whether his
appeal was heard by the courts, any of you?
Lol. But still don't see the point. keep in mind that logicians are
simple mind :)
3) But after flying for platonic infinities through every possible
universe as a disembodied soul eye with infinite memory at any
speed you wished, you would go sign up for another round to be
entangled with some strange universe physically again and push the
"format disk" button once again and agree to all constraints, just
for novelty's sake and say "sh*t, it's boring here... but I am no
chicken, I choose a local universe where aristoteleans are winning,
just to make it more interesting, because the platonic localities
are too much already like here...also, I'll choose one where matter
is really convincing and makes us unable to define life properly,
so that I can pose this question in a forum someday, and confuse
the others a bit, hehe."
OK. But for once, my question was terrestrial. Of course such
question makes less global sense in Platonia, but can still make
sense locally, even there.
Bruno
:)
Cowboy
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