On 04 Feb 2013, at 16:22, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:

Brain –> Consciousness , Consciousness –> Brain.
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Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ?
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‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may
not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather
consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain -  . .  . .’
/ Book ‘ The Holographic Universe’  page 160.
       by  Michael Talbot ./
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Isn’t it a strange contradiction ?

The contrary is a contradiction, once you assume that the brain is Turing emulable.
See the sane2004 paper for a proof of this:

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html

You might need to study some good paper showing that arithmetic is Turing universal, but you can already derive this easily from Gödel's 1931 proof technic. The arithmetical relations emulate the computations, so that arithmetic constitutes a block-mindscape, and matter, and thus brain, are only stable pattern appearing in some collections of computations. The main point is that this is testable, and QM, notably the MWI, confirms already the most startling consequence of the digital mechanist hypothesis (comp). If Talbot is right, that would also confirm a much simpler theory than its own.

Bruno





But maybe it means what brain obeys the  ‘dualistic law’ :
Brain - –> Consciousness ,  Consciousness - –> Brain.
Who knows ?
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