condescending dismissal in 3... 2... 1...
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:27 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 15 January 2014 06:53, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> See my response to Brent on consciousness of an hour ago. It answers this >> question... >> >> Actually to answer your question properly you have to define 'person', >> what you mean by an 'AI' and what you mean by a 'simulation'. In the >> details of those definitions will be your answer... It's arbitrary and ill >> formed as asked.... >> > > Yeah, unlike waffle about "it's really real because it's real in the real > actual world, really, because I say so" (insert eye-rolling emoticon here) > > OK, let's say we simulate you in a virtual world. Or, to get a particular > scenario, let's assume some aliens with advanced technology turned up last > night and scanned your body, and created a computer model of it. We won't > worry about subtleties like substitution levels and whether "you" are > actually duplicated in the process. It's enough for the present discussion > that the simulated Edgar feels it's you, believes it's you, thinks its you, > and appears to have a body like yours which it can move around, just as you > do, in a world just like the one you're living in (they have also modelled > the Earth and its surroundings. Using nanotechnology they can do all this > inside a relatively small space). The simulated Edgar will think just like > you, assuming your thoughts are, in fact, the product of computation in > your brain, and it has your memories, because the aliens were able to model > the part of your brain that stores them. > > So, sim-Edgar wakes up the next morning and believes himself to be > earth-Edgar. > > Would he know, or discover at some point, that he's a simulation in a > virtual world, and if so, how? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
