> On 20 Jul 2014, at 1:44 pm, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote: >> >> > Consciousness comes in two flavours (that I know of): >> 1. I know >> 2. I know that I know. (Presumably something to do with remembering that you >> knew.) >> Are there any others? > > Well, do you know that you know that you know? Even if the answer is yes > after just a few more iteration the answer will certainly be no because you > won't be able to follow even what the question means. And as a practical > matter at least 99% of the time you don't know that you know, you just know. > Most of the time it would be counterproductive anyway, if you were fully > aware of how you know that you know how to walk and chew gum at the same time > you'd fall flat on your face. > > John K Clark
OK. So what separates us then, from dolphins and elephants who apparently also 'know that they know'? You aren't allowed to respond "Intelligence" because intelligence is what makes introspection possible in the first place. Without self-awareness there is no self to inspect. You can can question many things about the content of your consciousness. A cat can't. There needs to be a 'knower', a 'self' or a 'subject'. Who or what is that? What part of your brain is more evolved than a cat's brain that allows you to say "I know"? K > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
