On 2/4/2017 10:51 AM, John Mikes wrote:
Stathis asked:
*/Is agnosticism about God different from agnosticism about other
entities such as fairies and elves?/*
My reply is ab astounding *_ " N O " _*
I wold add to te fairies and elves the forces, the energy, the matter
and all facets of a universe-built world we came up with in our
speculations upon halfway understood (??) observations and their
explanations (our way).
An agnostic just "doesn't know". Not those facets we talk about an not
those we have no idea about (so far?).
Agnosticism is a hard principle to follow (ask Bruno).
Because to follow you formulation of it would mean you could never act
because you would never know what to do. But I'll bet you don't leave
food for the fairies in the garden or look for elves in the forest.
Why? Because although you don't know for certain that they don't exist,
you know well enough to act on the hypothesis that they don't.
Brent
JM
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Stathis Papaioannou
<stath...@gmail.com <mailto:stath...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed., 1 Feb. 2017 at 4:32 am, Telmo Menezes
<te...@telmomenezes.com <mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com>> wrote:
> Are you really agnostic about the god of theism?
Quoting from wikipedia:
"The term theism derives from the Greek theos meaning "god".
The term
theism was first used by Ralph Cudworth (1617–1688).[5] In
Cudworth's
definition, they are "strictly and properly called Theists, who
affirm, that a perfectly conscious understanding being, or mind,
existing of itself from eternity, was the cause of all other
things".[6]
Atheism is commonly understood as rejection of theism in the
broadest
sense of theism, i.e. the rejection of belief in a god or
gods.[7] The
claim that the existence of any deity is unknown or unknowable is
agnosticism.[8][9]"
I would say that, under these definitions, the correct scientific
stance is to be agnostic.
In this mailing list, we have seen hypothesis about such a
mind that
do not require man-in-the-sky, creationism or other
absurdities, nor
conflict with current scientific models. Are they correct? I don't
know, so...
Is agnosticism about God different from agnosticism about other
entities such as fairies and elves?
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Stathis Papaioannou
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