On 28 Jun 2017, at 21:30, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 at 3:29 pm, Adrian Chira <adich...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I suggest there is and that we don’t need to throw the notion of
free will in the garbage bin of meaninglessness.
https://adrianmchira.wordpress.com/2017/06/28/is-there-any-acceptable-definition-of-free-will/
It's OK not to have an explicit definition, but even the intuitive
notion of free will leads either to triviality (free will is when I
do what I want to do)
Is it really trivial? Free-will and consciousness are "obvious" from
the 1p pov, yet irreductible to 3p, except with the poor lawyer
defense "my client just obeyed to the physical laws".
Today, if you build a machine, and if the machine kills a human, you
will be judged responsible, but for how long?
Higher order structure exist, and indeed even electron and proton will
themselves be "reduced" has sort of collective hallucination (higher
order structures)., without changing anything in physics, but a lot in
metaphysics, theology and theotechnologies, etc.
It is not because we can represent something in something else that
the "something" will disappears.
"Free" is easy to define, even if hard to obtain, the mystery is more
in the will, even if we can intellectually understand that it has to
be mysterious so as to proceed and survive.
or nonsense (free will is not compatible with my behaviour being
either determined or random).
Or something in between. Something we can be confronted with in our
everyday "higher order" life. We are not "just" colony of bacterias
and amoebas.
Bruno
We are not human beings having spiritual experiences from times to
times. We are spiritual beings having human experiences from times to
times. (Chardin).
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