Did math exist in Dimetrodon brains, or when Mushrooms reached 24 feet tall, as precursors to trees?https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/long-before-trees-overtook-the-land-earth-was-covered-by-giant-mushrooms-13709647/It would then prove that math exists outside a human brain. IF . Some biologists say birds can count...
-----Original Message----- From: Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Dec 17, 2018 2:34 pm Subject: Re: What is more primary than numbers? On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:12:32 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: What I am curious to know is how how many of these statements you agree with: "2+2 = 4" was true: 1. Before I was born2. Before humans formalized axioms and found a proof of it3. Before there were humans4. Before there was any conscious life in this universe5. As soon as there were 4 physical things to count6. Before the big bang / before there were 4 physical things Let + be "concatenation" (perhaps a more primitive notion than addition). So ||+|| = |||| Now I could not write or show that without matter. The | is made and stored with electrons in computer memory and then transferred via internet to a computer screen. The concatenation operation producing the right side is made via a computer or brain putting "sticks" together. Before there were "sticks" there was no concatenation of "sticks". (See question 6.) What your brain does with the pixels you see above is up to your brain. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
