Thanks for all your help guys

solved it .......

I had to change some of the settings for the SMTP virtual server, to masquarde the 
domain and change the fqdn to the public name/address

Thanks

Stu



-----Original Message-----
From: Wall, Murray TMC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 June 2002 14:24
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMTP Protocol Error


ESMTP wasn't addressed by the RFC and older SMTP servers / some firewalls only allow a 
subset of rfc 821 try the ehlo fullyqualifieddomain.com if not you may have to get 
your exchange server to use the helo and not the ehlo (I had to)

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMTP Protocol Error

Thanks for that ...... If I do this it seems to work, 

however, as the same error message "501 Syntactically invalid EHLO argument(s)" is 
being generated by exchange, does this mean that for some reason Exchange 2000 isn't 
following the RFC?

-----Original Message-----
From: Wall, Murray TMC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 June 2002 14:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMTP Protocol Error


Make sure to follow the rfc...


RFC 821                                                      August 1982
                                           Simple Mail Transfer Protocol



   3.5.  OPENING AND CLOSING

      At the time the transmission channel is opened there is an
      exchange to ensure that the hosts are communicating with the hosts
      they think they are.

      The following two commands are used in transmission channel
      opening and closing:

         HELO <SP> <domain> <CRLF>

         QUIT <CRLF>

      In the HELO command the host sending the command identifies
      itself; the command may be interpreted as saying "Hello, I am
      <domain>".


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMTP Protocol Error

Ricki,

If I telnet into the offending mail server, I get the SMTP Banner (after a very long 
wait)

If I try either EHLO or HELO I get the error the following error

220 ultra19.uk2net.com ESMTP UK2.NET - UK's Biggest Host  Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:52
:04 +0100

501 Syntactically invalid HELO argument(s)
501 Syntactically invalid EHLO argument(s)

This happens on either of the listed mail exchangers

Thanks

Stu

-----Original Message-----
From: Rickenbacher Beat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 June 2002 12:59
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: AW: SMTP Protocol Error


What if you're manually sending a mail from E2K server (telnetting port 25)?
Is there a second mail server showing up in nslookup? Using this one (via
telnet and/or connector/smarthost) is also not working?
You also can try to change the internet message settings for that domain...
And then you can create a connector for this domain and change the default
settings (helo instead of ehlo etc.)

Ricki

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2002 13:35
An: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Betreff: RE: SMTP Protocol Error


No, there is no error number,

just an amtp queue in retry mode with "An SMTP protocol error occurred" in
the status box.

The user eventually gets the following error back

"This message was rejected due to the current administrative policy by the
destination server.  Please retry at a later time.  If this fails contact
your system administrator server_03ameryparkes/local.4.3.2."

Thanks

Stu


-----Original Message-----
From: Rickenbacher Beat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 June 2002 12:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: AW: SMTP Protocol Error


For Troublehsooting with E2K SP2 there is an option:
Q308323: How to Configure SMTP Transport to Log an Event 756 to Track
Non-Delivery Reports

Is there no error number assigned to the message you mentioned?

Ricki

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2002 11:59
An: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Betreff: RE: SMTP Protocol Error


Yes,

It's just sending to this one external domain that gives me this error


Stu

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Tonge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 June 2002 10:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMTP Protocol Error


can you send email to any external address?

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SMTP Protocol Error


Hi all,

I'm hoping you can help me with this problem.

When sending to a particular destination the queue is holding the message
with the following error, SMTP Protocol error occured.  I can however, send
mail to this domain from another account (hotmail etc).

At first I thought it could be because our service provider had neglected to
add a PTR record for our mail server.  Thi has now been corrected but the
problem still persists.

We are running WIn2K SP2, Exchange 2000 SP2 with the admin patch and the new
smtp patch.

Can anyone tell me what causes this? or is it exchange saying "i really
don't know why I can't send this"

How can I troubleshoot this?

any advice appreciated.

Thanks

Stu

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