Vaj, so what you are saying is that categorically no TM/TM-Sidhi practitioner could ever become enlightened because the technique(s) are fundamentally flawed. So all reports of enlightenment experiences are either lies are conditions of mind?
--- On Mon, 5/2/11, Vaj <vajradh...@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Vaj <vajradh...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vaj's Cosmic Consciousness To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 3:03 PM On May 2, 2011, at 2:43 PM, emptybill wrote: It would be so much easier for you if your would write and then store on your computer a simple statement that TM practitioners cannot and will never become "enlightened".You could also throw around a couple of phrases like "nitya-samadhi" or "bhava samadhi" and categorically deny that these states of consciousness are possible for anyone doing TM.You could even opine that TM practitioners can't go beyond asmita because they indulge in laya during meditation. Any TM-er claiming to do so then automatically becomes a layin yogi like Maharishi.Why don't you write it up now? It would be so very good-ol' buddi-suttwa of you.It would be easier to point to the science done on yogis in turitatita and then show a brief synopsis of the physiological changes in long-term TMers. My fave was when the TM Org issued press releases on their long waited for CC'er: he'd been found and they had the EEG's to prove it! And then the Enlightened One left, finding out he had a rare type of sleep disorder that kept him from falling completely asleep! I say give 'em more rope and watch them hang themselves; I mean it's endlessly entertaining and chronic narcissism is relatively harmless.