"I'm pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in his life was
walking from a limo into a lecture hall."
He must have gotten some lung exercises when he would indulge in his juvenile
rants when chewing someone out who displeased him. And he must have gotten some
aerobic exercise when he was screwing all those babes, unless he made them get
on top every time.
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On Wed, 5/7/14, TurquoiseBee <turquoi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking
Repentance Spiritually
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 9:28 AM
From:
"lengli...@cox.net" <lengli...@cox.net>
To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 7,
2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re:
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for
rethinking Repentance
Spiritually
Whatever.
Certainly, wanting to be
certain that I haven't wasted 20 minutes twice a day for
40 years, is part of the issue (not to mention another 15
minutes twice-a-day doing the TM-siddhis for the past 30
years).Whatever.
But...
Think about
it:
if the effects of TM can be
gained from reading a book, everyone should be reading that
book. On the other hand, if what TM teachers teach is
special in some sense, people need to know that
too.
Consider the latest research
coming out of Africa on PTSD. The studies are overwhelmingly
positive and are bound to show "regression to the
mean" at least somewhat in any replications, but what
if TM really CAN have such an effect consistently on certain
people (at least war refugees living in Africa with no other
support for stress at all) with PTSD? This is
HUGE.
While, objectively speaking, it
would be nice if other practices had the same or better
effect, MBSR is taught over a 2
month period, and researchers don't even bother doing a
followup measurement on PTSD symptoms until 3 months after
people complete the 8-week course, and even 20 weeks after
they first start learning mindfulness practices, they still
don't have as good an outcome as even the less-dramatic
studies on TM and PTSD in veterans have found in a fraction
of the time.
I always waned to be a TM
teacher, but never thought I was mentally stable enough to
become one. Even so, I can help out a little bit, if the
practice really is worth what the research suggests it is
worth.
If the practice isn't as
worthwhile, I want research done that will credibly find the
truth, period.
And TM isn't meant
to be a hypertension therapy per se so the fact that it has
such benefits is very interesting.
Whatever.
I didn't know that Maharishi
pooh-poohed aerobic exercise. I always heard "engage in
as much dynamic activity as possible without hurting
yourself."
Not true. Back in Squaw
Valley he still clung to Hindu superstition that claimed
that each of us humans is born with a predetermined number
of breaths during our
lifetime. Therefore, according to his weird way of
thinking, anything that increased the breath rate (running,
aerobics, swimming, etc.) was BAD for you because it
expended your "allotted number of breaths" sooner
and caused you to die sooner.
I'm serious. He actually
TAUGHT this hogwash, and people were gullible enough to
believe it. Runners stopped running, people stopped
exercising, and pretty much the only time they moved their
bodies was while doing his lame set of yoga asanas. I'm
pretty certain that the only exercise Maharishi ever got in
his life was walking from a limo into a lecture hall.
The flipside, of course, is why
you care?
I met you online what, 15-20
years ago? You weren't as anti-TM as you appear to be
now,
even though you made clear that you no longer practiced
it.
What changed?
Nothing changed, because I wasn't
"anti-TM" then, and am not now. I am "anti
cult thinking" and "anti bullshit" and
"anti fraud." To me, TM fits into all of those
categories. Believing that someone is "against"
you because he is not a fan of something you identify with
is just paranoia and self-importance in my book.
I still hang at FFL because
I'm interested in the cult mentality and I get to see so
much of it here. Plus, there are occasionally topics
discussed that I'm interested in. But on the whole
it's a collection of crazy people, so I occasionally
find it entertaining.
What
you don't seem to understand is that I am against TM
*ever* being taught in the
schools, and will be even if you produce a thousand studies
showing how great it is. TM does not *belong* in U.S.
schools because it's taught using a religious ceremony
and because the TM teachers simply can't help
themselves, and have to try to suck every prospective new
TMer deeper into the cult, and thus into cult thinking.
If people feel like paying for
TM and actually believe it does something good for them, I
have no problems with that. Pushing it like a drug onto
school kids...that's a whole other thing, one that I
would fight on Constitutional grounds any day.
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