On 8/25/2014 6:39 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Salyavin, here's where I find you to be very unscientific: you're warning me and Steve about the dangers of silver. And yet you don't warn Michael who also uses it! What gives?
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Also, for some reason MJ, Salya and Barry don't want to talk about the Rama levitation events. Go figure.
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 12:30 AM, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :

What I find strange is that Salyavin seems intent on completely discounting my experience with it, chalking it up to a placebo effect, because of things he's come up with on the internet.
It doesn't bother me.  It just seems a symptom of a closed mind.

If you misunderstand everything I say to this sort of extent I can only assume that you aren't paying attention to my posts or not following the links. The fact that something is a placebo DOES NOT mean that it doesn't work, just that the active ingredient isn't the one you think it is.

I suffer with asthma, I was at my doctors once getting a check up and I noticed that he'd left a cupboard open, inside were asthma inhalers with the words "Placebo inhaler" on the box. I remarked that maybe I shouldn't be seeing those and he just shrugged and said it doesn't matter as they'll still work.

But if you can manage the challenge do look at the colloidal silver wiki page as there is something about adverse effects that you may want to know - maybe Share will find the information that her intuitive cures may not be as safe as she supposes quite interesting....


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :

Much as I love Sal's posts this is one I don't agree on - I use colloidal silver from time to time and placebo or not, it is good stuff.

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*From:* "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
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I get the feeling that you are not joking. That for whatever reason, you are chalking this up to a placebo effect? I mean, I've had this condition for twenty years. I had really gotten used to it. I mentioned it in passing on FFL. Ann offered to send me this 1 oz. container of colloidal silver . It arrived, I started putting it on, and one day later the dead skin starts flaking off. I continue to apply a small dab twice a day, and the dry skin stays away, but the area remains red.

I start to get lazy, thinking that I don't really mind the red area, just happy that the dry skin hasn't come back, but still putting the ointment on, whenever I would remember, maybe a couple times a week.

Then, one day I notice that even the red spot was gone.

And according to you, it is a placebo effect?

I guess, for whatever reason, this incident, as I've described it, upends some belief system you have.

Rather strange I'd say.

BTW, I just looked at the little container.  It is two thirds full.

All this from maybe 1/3 oz.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :

Think it was the placebo effect that took care of the psoriasis? Damn, that power of attention thing must be better than I thought.

The placebo effect has nothing to do with your conscious mind or attention.

Bot don't take it from me:

Placebo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo>


        
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Placebo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo> A placebo (/pləˈsiboʊ/ plə-SEE-boh; Latin placēbō, "I shall please"[2] from placeō, "I please")[3][4] is a simulated or otherwise medically inef...
        
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Whatever it was/is, or shall be, the psoriasis is gone.

Now, from a scientific pov, I can't say with absolute certainty that it was the colloidal silver that was responsible, but the gradual improvement, and eventual elimination of the psoriasis, did coincide exactly with the application of the colloidal silver. (-:

It's a placebo:

"*Colloidal silver* (a colloid <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloid> consisting of silver particles suspended in liquid) and formulations containing silver salts were used by physicians in the early 20th century, but their use was largely discontinued in the 1940s following the development of safer and effective modern antibiotics.^[9] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver#cite_note-Fung1996-9> ^[10] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver#cite_note-mskcc-10> Since the 1990s, colloidal silver has again been marketed as an alternative medicine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_medicine>, often with extensive "cure-all" claims. Colloidal silver products remain available in many countries as dietary supplements <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_supplement> and homeopathic remedies, although they are not effective in treating any known condition and carry the risk of both permanent cosmetic side effects such as argyria <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria> and more serious ones such as allergic reactions, and interactions with prescription medications"

Medical uses of silver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver>


        
Medical uses of silver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver> The medical uses of silver include its incorporation into wound dressings, creams, and as an antibiotic coating on medical devices. While wound dressings containing silver sulfadiazine or silver nanomaterials may be used on external infections,[1][2][3] there is ...
        
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