"Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true, TM
was a total failure."
On 11/14/2014 1:13 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
No comment on Anartaxius' comment, but I do wish that if Nabby is
going to make up shit about me, he at least take a course in remedial
math before doing so. He was off by quite a few years in calculating
when my first enlightenment experiences were, placing them only a
couple of years after I started TM. :-)
>
/So, your practice of TM was NOT a total failure, if what you say is
true, and Anartaxius is lying? You two are not even making any sense./
>
As anyone who has actually read what I've written on this forum would
know (and that of course includes Nabby, who is just...how do I say
this delicately...lying), those first experiences in Fiuggi were only
the first such experiences.
>
/Can you present any PROOF that you've had these experiences? We'll wait./
>
They have continued ever since, from the time I walked away from TM
until the present, lasting anywhere from hours to days to weeks to
months.
>
/They all sound like your own subjective experiences, and if so, they
don't prove anything except that you read a few wisdom books and
borrowed some words from the Puranas./
>
What I think he's freaking out about is that when they fade, I don't
miss them. That fucks with his mind, since he's spent his entire life
chasing something I don't even miss when it goes away. :-)
>
/So, how long did you chase your enlightenment experiences - two decades?/
>
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Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true,
TM was a total failure. This seems to be a problem with spiritual
techniques in general, that most of the time they fail, if we go by
our view of the persons practising them, and even according what these
persons they say to us about their experiences. Success is rare.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent
witnessing, is that some people collect these experiences, while
remaining unchanged, themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like
being a tourist of higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a
bit of the Sat Shree interview and he says a veil, separating him from
the rest of the universe, was torn open, with no possibility of being
repaired. To live Being, silence, and bliss, is a far different thing,
than collecting, "I saw this", and, "this happened once", and, "for
awhile, this other thing happened". Enlightenment is not an aggregate,
a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how religions
get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness.
Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very
unsatisfying, whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that
font of creativity and expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so
the mind, when it does act, has no need to rely on stale and shrinking
memories - it can go anywhere it chooses, or just rest empty, in pure
awareness. Once everything is available, there is no longer a need to
collect experiences of any variety, no matter how tantalizing their
memory may be.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life.
Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in
Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes
to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some
hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed
himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And
that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual
experiences at all.
Yet he judge others, what a phony.
