The odd thing is, if anyone on this board met me in person, I could happily spend even years with them, and never bring up the topics of TM, Maharishi, or enlightenment. The reason I do here, is simply because there are enough of us here, who understand the context. Talking about this stuff is not part of my everyday social and family life. It is a specialized knowledge that I acquired, and enjoy, but I don't like proselytizing, or discussing spirituality or religion, with most people.
Instead, socially I am a sponge for any other kind of specialized knowledge, each of us has. I could spend hours discussing horses with Ann, or UFOs with Sal, or economics with Nabby, or music with Barry2. I tend to look at my spiritual life as something I hold quite privately, unless someone has a strong interest in this stuff. Most don't, and I am happy to interact accordingly. This includes, ZERO contact with any facet of the TM Organization. No practical value for me, in that.:-) I may visit Fairfield one of these days, and y'all can see for yourselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : salyavin, I think you make a good point that some TMers were simply born more stable or whatever. I've also noticed that kapha types are often very calm and grounded most of the time. Sometimes such people don't really get how different life is for other people who weren't born that way. So these types are stable, but they can lack vision and empathy. I think we all have our innate gifts and flaws. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "Do less but accomplish more" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a huuuuuge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-) When I was a newbie meditator I had this hunger for enlightenment, I'd had the experiences of CC up to unity many times and thought it must be an enviable state to be in all the time. After quitting my job and moving in to an academy I started to notice that people who had been doing TM for decades were for the most part, erm, highly eccentric, occasionally aggressive and generally rather odd. At first I put it down to the fact that they'd either not done enough TM or maybe too much . I did meet the occasionally evolved person which seemed to make it all worthwhile. You know the type, they carry a bit of dignity and have no obvious hang-ups or emotional blocks or ego problems. Clear minded people that act lively and always seem well adjusted. I think it was Maslow who had studied people who he described as self-realised and the description fits well. But then his description included open-minded inquiry and TMer's tend to have a True Believer devotee attribute. So I came to the conclusion - perhaps unfairly - that they must have been that personally quite evolved or halfway there to start with. I've yet to see any evidence that so-called enlightenment via TM is anything other than a personality disorder or even mental illness. Or at least an imbalance of some sort in the way the brain usually balances ego and other hormonal functions. The big question is: Is it worth crossing the street for? I've yet to see or hear anything from the TMO that makes me want to do TM with enlightenment as the goal, let alone sit around in a dome for hours every day. So I guess not, we will all answer the question differently I suppose and be happy with the answer we give ourselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Whereas the Movement never would "out" an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. "It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better" His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Okay, so now we're getting somewhere. I think this must be true. Only an enlightened person would recognize enlightenment in another. "It takes one to know one." Who woulda thought.
