On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:44 PM, Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
wrote:
   

     Seems to me that since a single photon of light hitting a dark-conditioned 
retina can trigger a change in the flow of consciousness -- a single photon 
could possibly be a tipping point's "final straw" and so, an 
infant's-personality-that's-ever-so-fragile could thereby get hard-wired into a 
"something or other."  I think we discussed this point some weeks ago. a single 
photon of light likely, on the basis of experiment, can affect the retina of 
the eye, but it is not an event the becomes conscious because the impulse does 
not get any further than this in the nervous system.
Of course, it's hard to imagine a research scenario that could measure such 
thing.  But I mention this as a viable concept for this discussion, because of 
the research on the "dirty water that is purified by radiation" -- "purified" 
means anything-not-water gets separated out.  I'll link below to the research, 
as I have done several times here at FFL, 
You did not link to the research, you linked to a YouTube video. That is not 
scientific research. Pollack supposedly published this research in a low 
quality on-line journal called Water, but it turns out, what was uploaded was 
not a scientific paper, but a page listing the table of contents of his book, 
purchasable elsewhere. So no published research at all, just advertising. This 
is the abstract for the article, which is not an abstract for research but a 
sales pitch:
'The following paragraphs are reproduced from the website of the publisher [1]. 
Professor Pollack takes us on a fantastic voyage through water, showing us a 
hidden universe teeming with physical activity that provides answers so simple 
that any curious person can understand. In conversational prose, Pollack lays a 
simple foundation for understanding how changes in water’s structure underlie 
most energetic transitions of form and motion on earth.' 
The citation footnote [1] in the abstract did not refer to any information 
either, not being a link or reference to anything else on the page.    
Not that that's a proof of astrology's main axiom, but that that indicates that 
light is VERY impacting at the subtlest of levels.  

There is very very much proof about instant printing.  We see birds immediately 
attach "that's my parent" to anything that moves when it is first born.  We 
know this kind of global psychological "hardening" is seen across the 
biological spectrum.  

Us human beings too?  Why not?  We know that trauma can do this.  Why not the 
first light that floods the newborn's eye?  

I paid good bucks to eleven jyotishi-types.  Nothing came true, no one "nailed 
me," I was never warned about something, and no insights into what I'd been in 
the past, and they all majorly disagreed with each other.  And all of them were 
consulted EXACTLY WHEN I NEEDED ADVICE THE MOST -- my life troubles during that 
time were the WORST of my life, but no jyotish person warned or saw this. 
So don't try to sell me any more jyotish, but don't toss it out with the 
western astrology bathwater.  I think the "light is synchronous" (not causal)  
concept has traction.  It's just that science is not up to examining it, and 
probably won't be for another 100 years. 
A good experiential observation that jyotish/astrology is hokum.


Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :

What possible difference can those things make? The fact that astrology and 
astronomy have common roots only means that eventually those who created and 
followed the SCIENTIFIC method and way began to require real evidence for their 
theories and ideas. The astrologers on the other hand continued to rely on 
mystical ideas that have never been validated.
Isaac Newton was a scientist and an alchemist. The fact that he pursued some 
non-scientific mumbo jumbo does not take away from his scientific achievements 
nor does it validate his mystical endeavors or make alchemy as he practiced it 
a science. 

  From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Astrology Science?
 
 My bet is the only astrology thewriters are familiar with is western or 
tropical astrology.  Theyprobably don't even know what jyotish is.  And I bet 
they don'tknow that astronomy came as the result of astrology nor thatKepler's 
day job was making charts for astrologers.  So hedeveloped better methods of 
determining orbits.

On 05/27/2015 01:31 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:




  Astrology:Is it scientific?
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| Astrology: Is itscientific?In some ways,astrology may seem scientific. It 
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