In hte Glorious Revolution of 1688 the rt to bear arm was delineated to all FREE , White PROTESTANT Englishmen, now & FOREVER & in each or hte various English Bill of Rights of 1688,enacted by our Parliament & the co Rulers King William of Orange & his co ruler Mary. Our framer knew this & so did much of our populous then & desired such on our Federal constitution as well as some state ones !
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From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
Seems there are problems in the UK these days as reported by some of our
members who live there. At the moment no one from Australia is posting
here.
On 06/18/2016 12:36 PM, feste37 wrote:
And of course, we all know that the poor citizens of Australia and
Britain, who are not permitted to own guns, are suffering under
terrible tyrannical governments.
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<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in
their houses the Holocaust might never have happened!
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<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a
quiet little town.
Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with
armed robberies and home invasions. People have a right
to defend themselves. Police can't do it. They just come
and take a report.
Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the
rest of Germany, were completely disarmed by the Nazis
and the Nazis had their way with them.
The last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.
The founding fathers of our country foresaw this and
wanted the people armed and dangerous for any tyrant.
They didn't want the people to fear the government, they
wanted the government to fear the people. That is the
primary reason for the second amendment.
From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday,
June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
Subject: Re:
[FairfieldLife] For Mike
As far as Iowa is concerned, I
remember reading a while back
that the gun laws have been
loosened. It used to be that
if you wanted a concealed carry
permit, you had to say why you needed
it. Now, you just get issued with it,
no questions asked, apparently.
In Fairfield, I doubt that
there are many people who
carry a concealed weapon.
There is no need for such a thing
here. I would like to ask such people
what they are frightened of. I read
another article based on some kind of
research that pointed out that
if people are in an
environment where they know
there are guns, they will be more
tensed up and aggressive. I think that
is likely among gun carriers too. They
are ready to defend themselves,
but in my view that is more
likely to attract aggression
from others rather than repel
it.
Perhaps the 2nd Amendment
served some useful purpose at
some point in US history, but
it has outlived its
usefulness. I would repeal it and put
an end to the romanticization of guns
and gun violence, including the
erroneous notion that you
cannot be or feel safe unless
you carry a gun.
---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> wrote :
Sorry Feste, but that's the
way the
discussion was coming
off, very shallow and
uninformed. At least someone
could have posted the what the
gun laws are in the US to
make for a more
"informed" opinion.
Even the Wikipedia entry
would be sufficient though
folks could look up the
legislation for even more depth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
Such shallowness makes
the denizens here look
like "Eloi". I've
been to Fairfield and
know there is a fairly
significant part of the
population that no longer
follows the TMO. They've moved
on. Few of those post here.
One of the first things
I heard on local talk
radio was a
journalist explain the
difference between automatic and
semi-automatic weapons.
Also there was some
puzzlement from
military folks about how
the Orlando gunman was able to
kill 50 people without reloading
clips multiple times
giving an
opportunity to jump
him. This leads to speculation
of a second gunman and a "staged
event". Also Russ
Baker, an investigative
reporter, raises some
issues about the
shooter:
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/
The mainstream media
fictionalizes a lot of
the news to fulfill
the agenda of their
wealthy owners.
On 06/18/2016
04:30 AM,
feste37 wrote:
This post reminds me of the
bad old days of FFL
(actually, not too
long ago), when
TMers and people who
live in Fairfield
were subjected to daily,
gratuitous attacks on this
forum. Completely
unnecessary and also
stupid.
---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> wrote :
SecondAmendment aside, I
still maintain it is
healthy to let
the populace own
guns as
it tends to
thwart any idea of
complete takeover by a
coup d'etat
(which some
will maintain
has already
happened in the US
and is taking it's
time for
complete
takeover with
replacement of the
Constitution by
the Patriot
Act). However
nothing wrong
with
disallowing the
ownership of automatic
weapons. Most
folks here
though probably
don't know the
difference
between an automatic and
semi-automatic
due to their
sheltered lives
as TM'ers and
living in
remote Fairfield.
On 06/17/2016
08:28 AM, Mike
Dixon mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife]
wrote:
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/
"Well-Regulated"-Bearing
Arms - Second
Amendment,
Well-Regulated
We hear it constantly from droning
citizen
control cultists.
The argument
goes
something
like this.
“You want to...
Here you go.
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17, 2016 8:48
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