Simson, I see your response in the blog summary but I don't have anything in my in box so I'm adding on to this. Apologies in advance to all you non-Mac users.
I use Super Duper for keeping a bootable clone. I update this once a day with incremental changes. If I want to use FileVault, are you suggesting that I log out of my normal account (with the Home folder encrypted by FV), then create a 'public' account, then run SuperDuper? That would seem to make sense. Then if I needed to boot off the external drive, I would boot into that 'public' account, then log out of that account and back in to my private account? On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Carta Diem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simson, > > Thanks so much for the helpful information. Could you be more specific how > you use File Vault in conjunction with a bootable backup? > > "The backup is accessible if you boot from a backup drive; you just need to > mount > it and enter your FV password." > > I assume you meant that FV is accessible if you boot from a background > drive, correct? In other words, if I run FV on my main computer, and if I > create a bootable clone of the main computer on an external drive, then I > can boot that clone using any other mac, and I would be able to access the > data in FV the same way I would as if it were on my main computer. Correct? > > "You can also create an encrypted image on your external bootable drive > using Disk Utility." > > I am not sure what you mean by this. If FV has already encrypted the > contents of my User Folder, then why would I need to encrypt anything else? > > Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated. > > > > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:00 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Send FDE mailing list submissions to >> fde@www.xml-dev.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.xml-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/fde >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of FDE digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? (Carta Diem) >> 2. Re: Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? (Simson Garfinkel) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:58:08 -0700 >> From: "Carta Diem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [FDE] Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? >> To: fde@www.xml-dev.com >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> I've been doing a lot of traveling, and I've been looking for a storage >> solution that suits my needs. I don't seem to be able to find an ideal >> solution, and I don't think I'm in the minority ? although I could be >> wrong. >> >> Here is what I need: >> >> I travel with a notebook computer. >> That is also my main computer. >> Everything on it is critical. >> Everything on it needs to be secure. >> If the notebook fails for any reason, I need immediate, secure access to >> that information. >> >> Luckily, I use a Macbook Pro, so I can create a bootable clone on an >> external 2.5" drive that I can boot any Mac from, wherever I may be. All >> I >> need to do is carry a small 2.5" firewire drive with me. >> >> The problems are: >> (1) The MacBook Pro is not really secure. I don't use FileVault (their >> internal encryption solution), even though it elegantly only encrypts the >> contents of my Home folder, because it creates a separate disk image that >> could become corrupt during backup and that, apparently, you cannot access >> from a backup drive. >> >> (2) The external bootable drive has no security at all. None. So >> although >> it is bootable from any Mac (and I would have to authenticate at boot, >> using >> any Mac), to my knowledge it is still completely readable from any PC or >> Mac, should I simply connect it using a firewire or USB. That is >> unacceptable. >> >> Am I missing something? Do you guys have a solution in the works? It >> would >> seem to me that many travelers have the same needs as me, but maybe in the >> corporate world they use thin clients or don't travel around with critical >> information. (And the truth is, I'm not carrying any state secrets. I >> just >> don't want my personal information to fall into anyone's hands, full >> stop!) >> >> Thanks in advance... >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.xml-dev.com/pipermail/fde/attachments/20080513/e3191657/attachment-0001.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:13:55 -0700 >> From: Simson Garfinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [FDE] Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? >> To: fde@www.xml-dev.com >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; >> delsp=yes >> >> I travel with a MacBook Pro using FileValut. FV is great. The backup >> is accessible if you boot from a backup drive; you just need to mount >> it and enter your FV password. Normally that is the same as your login >> password. >> >> You can also create an encrypted image on your external bootable drive >> using Disk Utility. >> >> >> >> On May 13, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Carta Diem wrote: >> >> > I've been doing a lot of traveling, and I've been looking for a >> > storage solution that suits my needs. I don't seem to be able to >> > find an ideal solution, and I don't think I'm in the minority ? >> > although I could be wrong. >> > >> > Here is what I need: >> > >> > I travel with a notebook computer. >> > That is also my main computer. >> > Everything on it is critical. >> > Everything on it needs to be secure. >> > If the notebook fails for any reason, I need immediate, secure >> > access to that information. >> > >> > Luckily, I use a Macbook Pro, so I can create a bootable clone on an >> > external 2.5" drive that I can boot any Mac from, wherever I may >> > be. All I need to do is carry a small 2.5" firewire drive with me. >> > >> > The problems are: >> > (1) The MacBook Pro is not really secure. I don't use FileVault >> > (their internal encryption solution), even though it elegantly only >> > encrypts the contents of my Home folder, because it creates a >> > separate disk image that could become corrupt during backup and >> > that, apparently, you cannot access from a backup drive. >> > >> > (2) The external bootable drive has no security at all. None. So >> > although it is bootable from any Mac (and I would have to >> > authenticate at boot, using any Mac), to my knowledge it is still >> > completely readable from any PC or Mac, should I simply connect it >> > using a firewire or USB. That is unacceptable. >> > >> > Am I missing something? Do you guys have a solution in the works? >> > It would seem to me that many travelers have the same needs as me, >> > but maybe in the corporate world they use thin clients or don't >> > travel around with critical information. (And the truth is, I'm not >> > carrying any state secrets. I just don't want my personal >> > information to fall into anyone's hands, full stop!) >> > >> > Thanks in advance... >> > _______________________________________________ >> > FDE mailing list >> > FDE@www.xml-dev.com >> > http://www.xml-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/fde >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FDE mailing list >> FDE@www.xml-dev.com >> http://www.xml-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/fde >> >> >> End of FDE Digest, Vol 20, Issue 10 >> *********************************** >> > >
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