On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 12:16 +0000, earthw...@planetearthworm.com wrote: > Am I right to think that F10 is in a bad way when it comes to music > production?
Not any more than fc9, I think. > Reading around, it sounds like good things nearly happened, and the whole > of CCRMA nearly made it into this new Fedora Unity thing. Uh? First I hear about this... Unity? > On the face of it, that'd be great, and I could install my RT kernel, > FFADO, Jackd, and Hydrogen/Ardour easily. They all install fine from Planet CCRMA / Fedora for fc10 (but see below). With the Planet CCRMA kernel and fc10 I got an edirol fa-101 to work fine. Sigh. Firewire. Fedora. Sigh. Faado will only work with the Planet CCRMA kernel because the Fedora kernel still insists in shipping with the new stack only. Read this, written on Dec 2008: http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration >From that page: "Don't use the new drivers in Linux kernel versions older than 2.6.27.5. They are too buggy. Regarding Linux 2.6.27.5 and later, the best advice to Linux distributors (kernel packagers) as well as to regular users is: Either build only the old IEEE 1394 drivers, or build both stacks as modules but make sure that only one of them (the one you want) is being loaded. I.e. create proper blacklist entries in /etc/modprobe.conf; see below. Also, you need to upgrade your userland to libraw1394 v2 if you want to switch to the new drivers (or freely between old and new drivers)." Of course Fedora broke this a long long time ago. Fc7, I think. It is now fc10 and audio firewire support is still broken. By now any users needing firewire audio with Planet CCRMA have probably migrated away to better lands, so who cares anyway. At least libraw1394 is now 2.x and it can work transparently with both stacks (even more hacks were needed before fc10). > It sounds like the RT patches aren't maintained though, is this right? Yes and no. There are two "official" patches for 2.6.24.x and 2.6.26.x kernels. The former is the most stable but too old a kernel to actually work with fc9 and fc10 (X dies). And there are no patches for 2.6.27.x and beyond. Work is underway (AFAIK) on a new rt tree so we may see a new set of patches in the 2.6.28.x timeframe. In the meanwhile 2.6.26.x has seen a few crucial fixes happen recently, most notably a fix for the long standing broken midi i/o. There are still issues and I have seen it lock hard. Hope this helps clarify the situation. -- Fernando > This pretty much shafts the whole of music production on Linux doesn't > it? Won't new versions of Ubuntu and everything else be screwed over by > this? > > I'm feeling really let down by this. I can go back to F9, but what a > faff. I thought if I waited a while after release, all would be well. > And what about when F9 stops getting security updates? > > Any news on the state of play, and whether its likely to change would be > great. _______________________________________________ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
