Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

Wed, 01 Jul 2015 10:16:48 -0700

Hi Kathleen,

 

             I'm sorry you and Oreo are having such difficulties.

 

             Uveitis in cats is just as likely (in fact more likely) to be caused by FeLV as FIP. You noted that. I'm not sure why your Vet chose to bring FIP into this.

 

 There is no test for FIP.

 

Even a test on what MIGHT be FIP associated ascites. From VIN "FIP classically produces a clear but viscous yellow effusion, usually in the belly but possibly in the chest or in both locations. The fluid typically has a total protein level greater than 3.5 mg/dl. Several efforts have been made to find a diagnostic test that could be performed on this fluid. So far we know that typically FIP fluid is high in lactate dehydrogenase, alpha-amylase, and alpha-1 glycoprotein. These proteins provide evidence of the inflammatory nature of the fluid and would be evidence pointing towards FIP (though any other inflammatory fluid would yield similar results)."

Here's the article;

 

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=681

 

_most important_

 

FIP IS NOT CONTAGIOUS CAT TO CAT.

 

Please FeLV vaccinate your other cat, and let her out of the basement...

I have two FeLV+ adult cats. Both have been on low dose interferon for over two years, and are (Knock-on-wood) doing pretty well. I also keep immunoreglan in case either crashes. I don't know if either of these actually helps, but I think the interferon made a noticeable difference, and quickly.

 

In your position, since there HAS been improvement, I'd keep doing what you're doing. Keep him fed, and love him. Sometimes that's all you can do...

 

All the best,

 

Margo

 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: KATHLEEN BUSO
Sent: Jul 1, 2015 12:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

Thanks for the replies. We took Oreo back to see the vet yesterday afternoon. When I got home from work, he seemed so much better. He greeted me with loud meows and let me know he was hungry, so I fed him - he ate well without any assistance from me -  and then noticed that his left eye was quite red. I immediately called our vet, who saw him right away, and said he has uveitis. She felt it is probably from FIP. She said she thought his belly felt a bit full and squishy. She suggested doing a test of the fluid in his belly, to see if it is FIP but I said no for now. I don't really see any point in doing it. If it is FIP, I guess we will see a decline pretty quickly. Right now he is eating, and doing okay. He sleeps most of the time, but still snuggles and purrs, and doesn't seem to be in any pain, other than his sore eye, which we are treating with drops. Poor little guy. He doesn't deserve this. And of course, I'm worried about my other cat, who is being kept in the basement for now. We had her tested for the Leukemia virus, and it came back negative, thankfully. Now I'm worried about the FIP being passed on to her, if Oreo does indeed have it. 

The good news is that Oreo tested negative for herpes and chlamydia, so it doesn't look like he has a URI, but he does have a fever that won't go away. I guess that is a direct symptom of the leukemia, along with the lethargy and poor appetite. I understand the uveitis could be from the Leukemia too.  

Sally, we are in Thunder Bay Ontario, about 3 hours from Duluth, so I could take Oreo there for LCTI treatment, or see about getting it shipped to us. I'm so glad to hear it helped your kitty. If Oreo doesn't have FIP, we may give it a try. I just have to wait to see how he is over the next few days. 
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 04:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sally Dwyer <sallyldw...@yahoo.ca>
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
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Hi Kathleen,
I have used LTCI and I live in Hamilton, Ontario.? My cat was IFA positive for FeLV (meaning persistently infected as the virus was in bone marrow) and he went negative a few months after starting the LTCI, so in my opinion, it is definitely worth a shot for your little Oreo.? Your vet can call Terry Beardsley at LTCI and he will help explain the paper work.? Should only take a week for Health Canada to make an exception.? Otherwise LTCI can be shipped to a vet in the states virtually overnight.? Hope this helps and best of luck with your little guy.? just curious, where in Canada are you from?
Sally
 


     On Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:13 AM, KATHLEEN BUSO <kngb...@shaw.ca> wrote:
  

 #yiv7320785890 p {margin:0;}Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and
  seems much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very much appreciated.?
Thanks,Kathleen
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:41:51 -0400
From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com>
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Kathleen,

I have used LTCI on my 13 year old cat. He was diagnosed with FeLV 2 years
ago and got 3 injections in the first month, and then has gotten an
injection once per month after that. I think it helped him initially come
back from being very ill when first diagnosed (that plus daily syringe
feeding for a month, until he regained his appetite). If you are OK with
spending $50 per shot it might be worth a try. I have not tried it on
younger cats or kittens. Don't know about Canada, but in the US my vet
orders the LTCI in packs of 3 or 10 for me, and I learned to give the
injections to him at home. It needs to stay refrigerated so there's usually
a shipping charge for an ice pack.

If he can fight through the URI, good quality food, TLC and a low stress
environment will be good for your little Oreo. If you have not tried
syringe feeding (aka assist feeding), ask your vet for a handful of 10mL
syringes and look up how-to videos on YouTube for pointers. (I think my vet
once gave my cat a dose of Valium or something similar to help jumpstart
his appetite, but that was years before he was FeLV and just had a regular
URI.) Thank you for taking care of him. Sometimes we do everything we can
but the virus is just too much for the younger ones' developing systems to
handle. In those cases just keeping them comfortable and loved is the best
you can do. Enjoy the happy moments you have with Oreo.

Katherine

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Sally Dwyer <sallyldw...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Hi Kathleen,
>
> I have used LTCI and I live in Hamilton, Ontario.  My cat was IFA positive
> for FeLV (meaning persistently infected as the virus was in bone marrow)
> and he went negative a few months after starting the LTCI, so in my
> opinion, it is definitely worth a shot for your little Oreo.  Your vet can
> call Terry Beardsley at LTCI and he will help explain the paper work.
> Should only take a week for Health Canada to make an exception.  Otherwise
> LTCI can be shipped to a vet in the states virtually overnight.  Hope this
> helps and best of luck with your little guy.  just curious, where in Canada
> are you from?
>
> Sally
>
>
>
>   On Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:13 AM, KATHLEEN BUSO <kngb...@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9
> weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her
> kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in
> life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago,
> our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out,
> and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and
> she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said
> the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia
> and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later,
> he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he
> tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still
> have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of
> upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems
> much worse. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that would help,
> or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were
> considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to
> travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there
> and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and
> had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to
> help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be
> very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Kathleen
>
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia
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Sally how old was your cat when you started using LTCI?  Did the cat remain positive?

From: Sally Dwyer
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:18 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 4 month old kitten with Feline Leukemia

Hi Kathleen,

I have used LTCI and I live in Hamilton, Ontario.  My cat was IFA positive for FeLV (meaning persistently infected as the virus was in bone marrow) and he went negative a few months after starting the LTCI, so in my opinion, it is definitely worth a shot for your little Oreo.  Your vet can call Terry Beardsley at LTCI and he will help explain the paper work.  Should only take a week for Health Canada to make an exception.  Otherwise LTCI can be shipped to a vet in the states virtually overnight.  Hope this helps and best of luck with your little guy.  just curious, where in Canada are you from?

Sally





On Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:13 AM, KATHLEEN BUSO <kngb...@shaw.ca> wrote:




Hi, I am looking for advice about our little Oreo. We adopted him at 9 weeks from a rescue group. His mom was a stray who was ill when she had her kittens. The kittens were eventually bottle fed and had a rough start in life, but then seemed to recover and were adopted out. About two weeks ago, our Oreo started to show signs of illness. His inner third eyelid came out, and then he started running a fever. I took him to the Rescue's vet, and she gave me antibiotics and some metacam to bring down the fever. She said the mom had been tested for a bunch of viruses, including feline leukemia and came back negative, so there was no reason to test Oreo. A week later, he was worse so I took him to another vet and she tested him and told me he tested positive for feline leukemia. Up until yesterday, he seemed to still have a fairly good appetite but was sleeping a lot and showing symptoms of upper respiratory infection. Today he is uninterested in food and seems much worse. I was wond
 ering if anyone had any suggestions that would help, or should I just accept that there's nothing that can be done? We were considering trying the LCTI drug but we live in Canada so we would have to travel into the States to get it. It would be about a 3.5 hour drive there and would be hard on Oreo, as he hates the car. Has anyone used LCTI and had any success with it? Is there anything else I can do for Oreo now, to help him feel better, like steroids? Any suggestions or advice would be very much appreciated.  

Thanks,
Kathleen

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