HOW IS BELLA DOING? ---- simon95 <simo...@onvol.net> wrote: > Bella finally ate today she is on Mirtazapine 15mg: 1/4 tab every 4 days. Omeprazole 20mg: 1/2caps daily. Motilium tabs 10mg:1/4 twice daily. Prednisolone 3/4 twice daily Fortekor 5mg 1/2 daily And 120ml drip everyday. I am keeping her cosy and giving her loads of kisses and she is purring her heart out I will talk to my vet about the winstrol maybe he can check it out.
Sent from Samsung Mobile <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Kelley S <moonv...@gmail.com> </div><div>Date:2015/09/22 19:09 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: felvtalk <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Big Pharma </div><div> </div>I really wish I could see the initial posts..I've been complaining about this for a while and not gotten any suggestions.... On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: I don't disagree with that sentiment, but I have to tell you that Winstrol is not "big pharma". In fact, one of my frustrations is that there is a medication out there which has proven itself to be extremely beneficial in treating a lethal condition in cats, and yet most vets either don't know about it or don't prescribe it. Winstrol, and other anabolic steroids, have been blackballed by the scientific community because they hane been used as a performance enhancing drug by athletes. Some of you who follow these things will recall that it was Winstrol (Stanozolol) which was found in Canadian Ben Johnson's samples which got him stripped of the gold medal in running in the 1988 Olympics. Frankly, I don't understand why this association with illegal use in athletes should mean that the scientific community as a whole refuses to look at the effectiveness of this group of drugs. Moreover, looking at the scientific studies that do exist makes it clear that there are no solid studie s linking the use of these drugs to the many scary side effects the public always hears about. Even if side effects do exist (as they do with virtually every drug out there) athletes abuse these drugs by using them in huge doses and "stacked" in combination with all kinds of other drugs, so this is hardly reflective of how these drugs are supposed to be used, or would be used in a medical context. We aren't professional athletes, and many cats the world over are suffering from lethal conditions like leukemia, and yet, instead of being told that there MAY be a medication that could help (and I'm not of course saying it always does), we are instead routinely told there is nothing we can do but watch our babies fade away from the infection. It is obvious that Winstrol is not on the "Big Pharma" approved list because it is difficult to obtain, even from the vets, and they are pretty skeptical about it, so it certainly isn't a medication which is being "pushed" or promoted by "Big Pharma". With Zander, when he recovered from what was clearly a death spiral (his PCV was 5% and he couldn't move, and couldn't breathe without an oxygen tent over his head), and even though I had meticulously run and collected his blood work both before and after the use of Winstrol, some vets started to question whether he had had leukemia in the first place. So, when the medication works when it isn't supposed to, then the vets start saying that maybe he wasn't dying after all. I tried Winstrol on Zander out of sheer desperation. When we were told he couldn't have any more blood transfusions because he had reacted to his second one, we were giving him the LTCI injections and following his blood work closely. The LTCI was doing nothing and I was watching his PCV drop lower and lower again. When it reached 10 (after a high of only about 16 after the blood transfusions), I knew I was going to lose him soon with no other options available (after scouring the internet and speaking to experts everywhere). I literally went through the drawer I keep all the cat medications for all the emergency cat fostering I do, and I found Winstrol. It had been given to me years before by another vet for a cat with FIP, but the cat had passed away so quickly, I had had no time to even try the medication. I remembered that the vet had said that the Winstrol MAY help to stimulate appetite and make the cat feel better. I had nothing else so I figured, what the hell, and use d it on Zander. I expected NOTHING. Three days later, I noticed this very very slight blush on his so-pale gums, and I was pretty sure I was making it up because I was so desperate. I showed my husband. He too thought he saw something but both of us figured we were just so desperate for a miracle that we were hallucinating. We took Zander to the vets that Saturday for bloodwork, and his PCV came back at 12. We couldn't believe it and obviously remained skeptical. But week after week, the PCV climbed steadily until it was in the 30's, and he was eating and playing long before that. I don't think it is a miracle cure at all, but I do think it is a very good option for leukemia, and I remain frustrated that this option is not being offered in most situations where a cat has leukemia. It makes no sense to me, and doesn't to this day, that most people are not even told about the option of using it, when there are really no other decent treatments out there and the odds of the cat surviving this infection are really really poor. Because I had such an amazing response with Zander and his leukemia, I have used it in other situations where again we are told the vets have no answers, and the results continue to be pretty impressive, although unlike in Zander's case, I have not confirmed them as thoroughly with serial weekly blood work. I shall now dismount from my soap box! Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: September-22-15 8:23 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Big Pharma On 09-21, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > I am sorry if I sound so negative on modern medicine, but have had > some bad experiences and it leaves me a bit suspicious of modern > medicine. I have had a lot of luck with alternatives in cleaning up > the side effects of it using an alternative salve and tonic. > Can't say I blame you for being negative. Big Pharma is in it for the almighty dollar! Lorrie _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
