I AGREE, BLOOD TESTS LOWER THE AMOUNT OF BLOOD HE HAS TO HELP GET WELL. ---- Amy <awilkin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I would be concerned about rechecking blood over and over if cell counts are > low. > Glad things are looking better though! > Amy > From: Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> > To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > I got the vibe from the vet last night that we were going down hill, and I > had lost a lot of hope. I woke up to a much improved cat though! His > temperature is stable (still slightly high), he hasn't lost any weight, and > his purr is back to normal. He is definitely feeling better, but that doesn't > mean we are out of the woods. We just did a complete blood work; liver > function and all that stuff looks good (exception of high bilirubin, but the > vet wasn't concerned). He's peeing, and he even did a poop! Unfortunately his > WBC, neutrophils and lymphocytes are all very low. Thankfully his RBC remains > normal which is positive. > The vet is recommending doing AZT, this is a different vet than yesterday and > she seems more open to talknig about things. She seemed open to calling > Amani's vet to chat about Winstrol. > I'm still force feeding, and they want to stop the prednisolone to let his > WBC regenerate I think. I'm a bit nervous about stopping it. We are staying > on the doxy, with cevenia and mirtazipine. > Again, right now we mostly need to wait and re-check blood work in 48 hours. > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Maya, > > Any improvement is good news ! How bad is the anemia? What is > his PCV/HCT? Is it regenerative or non-regenerative? There are medications > that can help with that, which your Vet may be comfortable using. This > discusses the use of erythropoietin in cats with kidney failure, but anemia > is anemia. > > http://www.felinecrf.org/esas.htm > > There's also a great yahoo list. I don't know how active it is anymore, but > the files might help; > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Feline_Anemia/info > > I know it's frustrating not to be able to treat the FeLV itself, but we CAN > manage/treat the symptoms. > > Best to Merlot, and you, > > Margo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maya D'Alessio > Sent: Oct 20, 2015 8:12 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > Good news; his temperature is down to a "high normal", bad news; he has an > anemia murmur. The vet was not hearing me about Winstrol and he seemed in a > bad mood. I'm hanging on to the decreased fever as a sign of good things. We > will re-do blood work tomorrow and re-asses in the morning. > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Lance <lini...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > My FeLV+ girl Ember got five-on five-off interferon. I can’t remember if it > was 1ml or .5ml, but it wasn’t a large dose. > I seem to remember a vet at a specialized clinic telling me that we didn’t > have to stagger it, but my “country vet” had prescribed it that way, and we > stuck to it. > AZT can cause serious blood abnormalities in cats. I don’t think it’s often > used in treating FeLV because of that. > Lance > > On Oct 20, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> wrote: > You've been plenty helpful, thank you. What I need to figure out how to do, > is accept the situation and be less emotional about it, no matter which way > it goes, until the time comes. Right now I'm just so emotional, I keep > flip-flopping between optimistic and hopeless. > Do you know with the interferon, what dose they are on? When you first > started did you start immediately with the one week on, one week off, or was > there a more intense initial period? > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > I remember researching AZT an deciding against it, but I don't recall why. > My two boys have been on interferon for years (low dose one week on, one > week off) and I've never seen any adverse effects, but when they're sick, > they seem to perk up during the "on" weeks. The anti-nausea was likely > Cerenia, which is being recognized for it's anti-inflammatory properties, as > well. > > He's improving. No need for any major decisions. That's really not a lot of > drugs, all things considered :) It was two weeks until Gribs was eating > normally, and seemed as if he might live. There really is no formula for mosr > people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. Sorry I > can't be more help with that. > > Margo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maya D'Alessio > Sent: Oct 20, 2015 1:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I > will pass it along to my vet immediately. > He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and > won't eat, I am assuming his body is not up to those drugs yet. He's > currently on doxy, prednisolone and mirtazipine (appetite stimulant), and > they gave him an antinauseant shot last night (cevinia I think). > Question to the larger group; my cat is uncomfortable (although better than > yesterday), I have to force feed him and he's on a ton of drugs. How long is > this feasible? How long should I let it go if we don't see improvement? How > do you make that call. With my last cat, she deteriorated so rapidly and it > was so dire that it was a pretty straight forward call. > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > > Maya, > > Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that > will help your cat?? > > Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send you > some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the mind-set > you have encountered already, is all too common, even when our cats are dying > and there are few realistic alternatives. > > Most of the links I will send to you will not speak to the use of Winstrol > specifically for FeLV, but speak to things like building up strength and > improving appetite. > > Here is the first - very generic. > > > http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/prescription/stanozolol-winstrol > > Amani > > P.S. - I also noticed you are not far from me. My vet is in Etobicoke, in the > outskirts of Toronto. Perhaps your vet should call my vet? > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > -- > Maya D'AlessioPhD studentB1 377B, x32320Graduate Studies Endowment Fund > CoordinatorBiology GSA Vice ChairGSA Director At-LargeUniversity of Waterloo > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > Maya D'AlessioPhD studentB1 377B, x32320Graduate Studies Endowment Fund > CoordinatorBiology GSA Vice ChairGSA Director At-LargeUniversity of > Waterloo_______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > Maya D'AlessioPhD studentB1 377B, x32320Graduate Studies Endowment Fund > CoordinatorBiology GSA Vice ChairGSA Director At-LargeUniversity of Waterloo > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > Maya D'AlessioPhD studentB1 377B, x32320Graduate Studies Endowment Fund > CoordinatorBiology GSA Vice ChairGSA Director At-LargeUniversity of Waterloo > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >
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